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[Misthero]

make sure the upgrades for the pillboxes are ... fast builds :| and not the pricy (like 100 for the AP Bullets)

ANother, for the GC Autoloader... make it a medium-fast build, but a 'bit' slower RoF

I never really noticed the Laser Guided Missile Upgrade for these guys....

And when will the battleships be back? :(

[Devastator]

Geno has already add battleships.. Check first post..

[Misthero]

they werent there on the.. *cough* beta *cough* :(

[genobreaker]

lol hahaha i dont know... i think i have added that on the last beta build...

[genobreaker]

UPDATED:

Microwave Tank (added)
Avenger (added)

[lefthand]

The avenger seems redundant.
The IFV already covers AA and more. By the time you have made your war factory and tech center you can invest your credits into a battlefortress+GGI combo.
Too many units often ruins a mod.

[Misthero]

Avengers are your advance aa unit, even an IFV can't keep up with that. But of course, it's 1 passenger fireing hole is good for it. Battle Fortress is like 1500 i think, and GGis are at around 400 ea... but avengers are i remember it was 1000 per each, and you can drop 1 GGi into it, 1400 Anti-Air / Somewhat anti-land

[genobreaker]

i want to improve more the Allies AA Defense... i put this Avenger to be more accurate and powerful AA... somewhat an aegis cruiser on wheels but on land... IFV is also for AA and land... but sometimes you will sacrifice more IFV... same as the GGI+Battle Fortress... Good for AA and mostly land...

[lefthand]

It’s still redundant regardless. Perhaps missiles are not “accurate and powerful” enough but they are very accurate (they follow their targets) and the most powerful AA in RA2/YR (a single missile does more damage then bullets/flak.) Lastly missiles are more effective against disks, airplanes and kirovs. Making something more powerful then that is giving the Allies too much of a leg up on AA then the other factions.
I could understand if this unit was replacing the IFV for the laser general but we are talking about the standard here.

[genobreaker]

so lessening up AA a little...
hmm... well anything you have in mind replacing that avenger concept...

im thinking also that IFV avenger a-like in laser general... and i cant think what allies lack of? hmm...

[lefthand]

I am only suggesting but make a list of what the Allies are best and worst at. That may help but I think your mod will do fine without an avenger.

[Misthero]

probably they're bad at is fending off a group of kirovs.... and a ton of apocalypse tanks.. :3 all their tech is usually single target (With the exception of Prism Tower or Grand Cannon) while Flaks win at that (Anti Air) and a well placed Tesla Coils for the Soviets. If you replaced Avengers with something like Aegis Missiles, wouldnt that be over powered? since Aegis can attack at least two targets at once while Avengers only attacks 1.

So basically this unit is your Advance AA on Ground, while the Aegis Cruiser is on Sea.
A Group of IFVs is simple enough, and yes your BF + GGi Combo is perfect for Anti-Air/Anti-Ground, but sometimes they fail ultimately since if your opponent sends you air and land vehicles...

[Allied General]

It just clutters build space, you can't have a perfect defence, otherwise everyone would turtle.

Having weaknesses is what makes a side unique.

I could also mention how elevation and battlefortress is overpowered but I'm sure people know that. (+4 range bonus, +20% dmg)

[genobreaker]

UPDATED:

Avenger (taken out for re-evaluation)

Allied Battle Lab (added firestorm graphic)
Sniper (can now deploy)

check the screenshot above

[Devastator]

Allied Battle Lab (added firestorm graphic)

Lol I thought your adding some kind of firestorm wall around the battle lap or something?
Didn't expect your going to make it like Soviet pre-release battle lap.

[genobreaker]

im not changing it to like the pre-soviet battle lab... well im putting more animations to some buildings so it would be more good...

[genobreaker]

maybe the last allied update... or not?
hahaha... well i still have the prism tower upgrade tests...

check the first post for details...

Updated:

Hacker (added)
Mirage Tank (new prerequisite)
Grand Cannon (new prerequisite)
Seal (new prerequisite)
Dolphin (new prerequisite)
Allied Wall (new prerequisite)
Patriot Missile (new prerequisite)

Edited by genobreaker, 01 March 2009 - 06:51 AM.

[Misthero]

haha autoloader gets to deal with close range battles, but not those random prism tanks along the way.

[genobreaker]

I kinda play LAN with some of my friends... the autoloader does really helpful... especially at large scale of assaults... positioning them at the back will be good...
you will loose some buildings/units in that kind of assault but your main base will still be standing and all of their forces are wiped...

[Misthero]

a row of autoloaders in the back, and a row of none autoloaders in front? deals with random long range units i say