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[Misthero]

hmmm

Commandchees/Long Bows already exist in the game as 'attack choppers'

I'm thinking
Vanilla - Side Nighthawk - 7 People Transport? and maybe a gun upgrade (SO it can kill infantry or something.)
Air Force - The thing is uber already. lol.
Superweapons - okay, this Nighthawk will be 'faster' 'more stealthier' 'carries 1 more passenger' keeps it's regular guns. for the price of say 1500/1250 a piece.
Laser - hmm the only thing i can think of for this chopper would be "Normal" Nighthawk or.. a anti-air laser variant.


Btw
Choppers are loud upclose, an adjustment to the Nighthawk's sounds. make it more... 'less in volume' so it can creep around without someone hearing it (I mean i have my Speakers at Max)

[need my speed]

Throwing out ideas...Hmm, let's see.

-Vanilla:
Well, no or little to no noise from propellors for one, then maybe a passenger capacity of 10...And a gun much like that of a SEAL (although that probably is overpowered so maybe tone it down a bit).

-Airforce:
This one must be the worst, maybe give it a Nuclear Missile launcher to balance it out. With a ROF of, let's say, 10...That was a joke by the way.

-Super Weapons:
Stealth maybe? I don't know about genobreakers plans for stealth detection, but I would make Sentry Guns, Pillboxes, and Yuri's variant make detect stealth to give them a purpose. And maybe (yes, I said maybe) Flak Cannon's, Patriot's, and Yuri's variant too. Then Dog's, along with their Spy detection, and Tanya, Boris, and Yuri Prime (if he is used). Remove all of Yuri's Spy detection though (all those Yuri Clones, Masterminds, etc, they all detect Spies, makes it kinda hard to infiltrate a Battle Lab), and make it balanced with the other factions. Maybe Robot Tank's and Terror Drone's detect stealth too. And something for Yuri then (maybe Yuri Clone, dunno). But back to the point, maybe also a bit faster, sneakier (thus stealth)...But also tone down the passanger capacity to 5 or so then.

-Lasers:
Simple. Replace the anti-infantry machine gun with an anti-tank laser gun. Done.

[TapSiLogMACHINE]

-Vanilla:
Well, no or little to no noise from propellors for one,

my sentiment exactly

then maybe a passenger capacity of 10...

10? nighthawk's too small for 10 people...

I would make Sentry Guns, Pillboxes, and Yuri's variant make detect stealth to give them a purpose.

too much bro... that would make a base uninfiltrateable since most bases has them everywhere inside...

And maybe (yes, I said maybe) Flak Cannon's, Patriot's, and Yuri's variant too.

again, not a good idea, since this adds up to my point in the last quote..

Tanya, Boris, and Yuri Prime (if he is used).

nope, they can't detect.. as well as yuri clones and masterminds.. but psychic towers could..

Maybe Robot Tank's and Terror Drone's detect stealth too. And something for Yuri then (maybe Yuri Clone, dunno). But back to the point, maybe also a bit faster, sneakier (thus stealth)...But also tone down the passanger capacity to 5 or so then.

robot tanks, yeah, that's okay for me, but terror drones? nah... if it could detect, then it would be imba...

-Lasers:
Simple. Replace the anti-infantry machine gun with an anti-tank laser gun. Done.

what's going to be laser general's simple and exclusive anti-infantry structure then?

[need my speed]

-Vanilla:
Well, no or little to no noise from propellors for one,

my sentiment exactly

then maybe a passenger capacity of 10...

10? nighthawk's too small for 10 people...
Anything for a good (and balanced, of course) Nighthawk!

I would make Sentry Guns, Pillboxes, and Yuri's variant make detect stealth to give them a purpose.

too much bro... that would make a base uninfiltrateable since most bases has them everywhere inside...
Versus the AI maybe. Who build Sentry Guns etc in an online game?

And maybe (yes, I said maybe) Flak Cannon's, Patriot's, and Yuri's variant too.

again, not a good idea, since this adds up to my point in the last quote..
I also think it's not, hence why I said maybe.

Tanya, Boris, and Yuri Prime (if he is used).

nope, they can't detect.. as well as yuri clones and masterminds.. but psychic towers could..
I know they couldn't, they just should to make them more valuable I think. Yuri Clones, Masterminds, Psychic Towers...They really shouldn't be able to do that. Then you can't infiltrate a Battle Lab etc at all!

Maybe Robot Tank's and Terror Drone's detect stealth too. And something for Yuri then (maybe Yuri Clone, dunno). But back to the point, maybe also a bit faster, sneakier (thus stealth)...But also tone down the passanger capacity to 5 or so then.

robot tanks, yeah, that's okay for me, but terror drones? nah... if it could detect, then it would be imba...
Why? Robot Tanks are too sucky (lol), so this would maybe make them more usefull, and Terror Drones. Well, it's hard to explain (I already retyped 3 explanations ), but, well...Ah screw it. I hope someone else can explain why it isn't unbalanced. And by the way, they lose their stealth detection when inside vehicles.

-Lasers:
Simple. Replace the anti-infantry machine gun with an anti-tank laser gun. Done.

what's going to be laser general's simple and exclusive anti-infantry structure then?

Huh? Structure? A Laser Cannon I guess (f it's called that). But, why would laser need anti-infantry aircraft? Anti-tank is nearly always better (expect versus infantry general, but that doesn't really matter. Laser GI's etc can all handle that just fine.

[TapSiLogMACHINE]

-Lasers:
Simple. Replace the anti-infantry machine gun with an anti-tank laser gun. Done.

what's going to be laser general's simple and exclusive anti-infantry structure then?

Huh? Structure? A Laser Cannon I guess (f it's called that). But, why would laser need anti-infantry aircraft? Anti-tank is nearly always better (expect versus infantry general, but that doesn't really matter. Laser GI's etc can all handle that just fine.

yes defensive structure, like the pillbox... the prism tower is already the anti-tank laser defensive structure.. maybe that anti-tank laser gun you were talking about should be an anti-infantry laser gun instead...

and oh, I, for one, build them anti-infantry structures inside my base, it serves as part of my secondary defense.. if they could detect, then cool for me, but it's still overpowered since it's too cheap..

[need my speed]

But, how does a Nighthawk with an anti-tank laser gun instead of a Nighthawk with an anti-infantry machine gun affect the defensive structures of the Laser general?

[TapSiLogMACHINE]

okay, I got a little confused there... you meant to change the laser general nighthawk's anti-infantry gun into a laser gun, right? perhaps I was a little too sleepy there, that I uh, got your point wrong there...

[need my speed]

Yeah I thought that. Yeah, I meant that the normal Nighthawk gun was replaced by an anti-tank laser gun for the laser general.

[Misthero]

So Nighthawk with Sentry Gun's Weapon? (For all? or just specific sides (No more for airforce sheesh. that thing is a monster with fireports... that flies.))

[TapSiLogMACHINE]

that'd be sweet... but I don't think Nighthawk Transport would be a suitable name for it.... I'm thinking Nighthawk Battle Transport? IDK...

[wcvechten]

Assualt Nighthawk~?

[need my speed]

Huh? Why isn't Nighthawk good? And of course that thing that Airforce has, however it is called.

[TapSiLogMACHINE]

Huh? Why isn't Nighthawk good? And of course that thing that Airforce has, however it is called.

because "Nighthawk Transport" is just supposed to be a transport, firing a small AI gun is only its 2nd priority. giving it a more powerful weapon will make both of its functions kinda even up.. hence the name, at least, should be changed.

and yes, you were right, assault nighthawk is already taken by airforce general, as its first priority was to be garrisoned by troops and raise hell upon its enemies, hence the term 'assault'...

[need my speed]

I think Nighthawk is good. I mean, you're going to build a chopper for $1000 to own infantry and barely scratches anything else? It's primary function is still transport. Of course, laser's Nighthawk will get the very unique name of Laser Nighthawk (I guess) so that is also good.

[TapSiLogMACHINE]

I think Nighthawk is good. I mean, you're going to build a chopper for $1000 to own infantry and barely scratches anything else? It's primary function is still transport. Of course, laser's Nighthawk will get the very unique name of Laser Nighthawk (I guess) so that is also good.

you got that right... it's just that the original name didn't suit the concept of a helicopter transport which fires anti-armor lasers...

[Misthero]

Assault Nighthawks still own the skies. :3

[TapSiLogMACHINE]

Assault Nighthawks still own the skies. :3

yeah... that filled with GGIs can intercept enemy aircraft and make them go down one by one..

[genobreaker]

Sorry for the late post update here in revora...
I kinda updated more at freedom...

well you can check the first post...
graphical changes, prerequisites and more...
i removed the hacker unit and changing it for future release...