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#341 tylerman29

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 01:39 AM

post them :wink_new:
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#342 mike_

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 01:49 AM

Dude, they're working on it...patience.

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 01:56 AM

i didnt mean to post that it was an accident i thought the other post didnt make it, it was before he answered. :wink_new: (didnt refresh)
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 09:57 AM

Hmm, how about Rivendell? I suppose one subfc will take on the current set of Elven buildings? Although it would be nice if they were completely new *hint hint*.
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 10:56 AM

wow, dudes. one day passed and you posted soo much :wink_new:


hmm i got idea for the mirkwood fortress - model

One huge giants, tree, with some smaller bushes, trees and brids flying around it ( if you know Sylva fortress from HOMAM 5 you know what im talking about - its just beautifull )
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"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


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Posted 29 April 2008 - 11:21 AM

I've always imagined it as more of a building like the current rohan barracks, rectangular and elongated. That's just me though :wink_new: Rivendell will probably get some of the current elf buildings and some of the ones in worldbuilder, though the fortress will likely change.

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 11:23 AM

I was just looking for some screens of HoMaM as I've never played it. I found these fortresses (which are beautiful) but I can't find the one you mentioned:

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 11:25 AM

no you cant buddy :(

before i posted the post, i tried to find the right screenshot . . . . no luck / took me hour /

but ingame its just beautifull, believe me
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 11:27 AM

I've always imagined it as more of a building like the current rohan barracks, rectangular and elongated. That's just me though :wink_new: Rivendell will probably get some of the current elf buildings and some of the ones in worldbuilder, though the fortress will likely change.


Lol you must be kidding? A Rohan barracks has no likeness to any Mirkwood building. Hahaha!
I would imagine it to be concealed by branches and twigs of sorts...
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 11:28 AM

no you cant buddy :(

before i posted the post, i tried to find the right screenshot . . . . no luck / took me hour /

but ingame its just beautifull, believe me

Maybe you can take a screendump?

Oops, sorry about the double post btw.

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*COUGH COUGH* :wink_new:

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 12:49 PM

holy sh*t thats sweet!n perfect for mirkwood stuff
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Posted 29 April 2008 - 02:01 PM

OH-EMM-GEE- I have a great idea here. Has anyone here played Warcraft 3- Frozen Throne. Whoever has, might remember the Naga and how their buildings start off. For those of you that haven't they start off in a watery area, the water is shallow like you see in the Fords of Isen. Anyhow, the whole area is swamped with water, and we could have the castle like that in RJ maps. It'd definitely be amazing.

Like you see in the screenshot below. OK I found an example to illustrate:

http://www.gamershel.../46949_full.jpg

I don't really like these games anymore as they are too 'cartoonish' but the idea of having the Fortress being amidst shallow water is an area you could think about imo.

I remember from The Hobbit, that a river or stream ran straight into the back end of the Fortress carrying barrels that would deliver goods from and to Dale. So there is mention of 'water' and 'Fortress'. OK here let me quote from The Hobbit:

'...the bridge that lead across the water to the king's doors. The water flowed dark and swift and strong beneath; and at the far end were gates before the mouth of a huge cave that ran into the side of a steep slope covered with trees. There the great beeches came right down to the bank, till their feet were in the stream.
Across this bridge the elves thrust their prisoners (i.e. the Dwarves), but Bilbo hesitated in the rear. He did not at all like the look of the cavern-mouth, and he only made up his mind not to desert his friends just in time to scuttle over at the heels of the last elves, before the great gates of the king closed behind them with a clang.'

The screen from HoMaM is just sweet imo. That could be incorporated with shallow water rather than deep. Soo, just some ideas.

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 03:13 PM

that pic. of sylvan fortress is not the one i had in mind, but its pretty good tooo ( though yeh it gives you a good idea of what i was speaking ).

in the game, the camera rotates around ( for each races ) and shows the whole " castle ",

as for you Fyro - gj on finding pic. of this quality ( the ones i got, were either too small (300x300), or too bad quality, gj buddy :wink_new:

for the warcraft ( warcraft still rocx after all these ears :crazed: ), i dont know why the elven fortress should stand in shallow water . . . . :p . . . ?

Edited by Myrdin, 29 April 2008 - 03:14 PM.

"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 03:24 PM

^No probs man. :wink_new: Everyone else should have a look at that magnificent Sylvan fortress btw.

Myrdin d'you think there should be deep water? The normal Elven fortress has a tiny 'moat' upgrade, but I think the water here should more than just a tiny moat :crazed: , so it's similar to the Sylvan Fortress. The expansions could be on piers...

Instead of the tree jutting straight out of the water it could be on a mound of hill, which in turn would be on another hill mound. The second hill mound (the one on top) would have a cave entrance, with a bridge to the mainland. Surrounding the whole fortress would be a bigger moat than the normal Elven one. The expansions, as mentioned could be on piers that stick out and go down into the water. That'd be great.

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#355 Myrdin

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 04:34 PM

that all would be pretty damn hard to model out :wink_new:
"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 05:50 PM

I think it'd be slightly more difficult than the new Lórien fortress.

Note: Sorry about my 7-year old graphic skills, but this illustrates the structure, nothing more (the colours are obviously rubbish as well, the graphics would obviously be like the HoMaM screen):

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 07:57 PM

what should be the building on left ? looks like church :wink_new:

Edited by Myrdin, 29 April 2008 - 07:58 PM.

"Let this scar signify the first blow against the mortal world."
"From this seal shall arise the doom of men,"
"who, in their arrogance, sought to wield our fire as their own."
"Blindly they build their kingdoms upon stolen knowledge and conceit."
"Now they shall be consumed by the very flame they sought to control."
"Let the echoes of doom resound across this wretched world, that all who live may hear them and despair."


"Tremble, mortals, and despair! Doom has come to this world!"

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:33 PM

I think something like a watchtower or that other expansion..? well kinda like the idea:) but thats 2 elven fortresses are trees:P

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:35 PM

What I meant for the Mirkwood fortress/rohan building was just the general shape of the building...not the style of architecture :wink_new:

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Posted 29 April 2008 - 08:46 PM

what should be the building on left ? looks like church :)

Lol. Nah it's just the backdrop.

I think something like a watchtower or that other expansion..? well kinda like the idea:) but thats 2 elven fortresses are trees:P

Jakob J.

I guess it's pretty hard to remove Elves from trees lol. They're like frikken treehuggers :p Btw, I have nothing against environmentalists, in fact I'd call myself one were it not for my (will-be) high-end PC.

Yoda, did you have a look at that screen from Heroes V, and my other post? What are your thoughts? :)

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