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#701 Protozoan

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 07:34 AM

You got Gap Generator to block Risen Railgun. Even if enemy uses Scout Raven + Risen Railgun, it's pretty where to know where exactly the Airfield is, especially when it's in the center of the shroud.

 

A player shouldn't have to do that just to block a cheap move, the Gap Generator is expensive and requires a lot of power, besides that, most bases tend to be spread out so a Gap Gen isn't going to cover the Barracks, War Factory & Airfield in most cases, which would require possibly 2 Gap Generators, and even more power.

 

If the enemy decides to use Scout Raven then it's pointless anyway. Railgun damage against Jets needs to be nerfed, no excuses.


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Posted 25 October 2014 - 07:50 AM

3 Risen Railguns cost as much as 2 Gap Generators. In BR2 one upgraded Powerplant(+300 power) can power up one Gap Generator in extended range mode(-300 power). It's no hassle really.


Edited by MrFreeze777, 25 October 2014 - 07:52 AM.


#703 Petya

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 07:56 AM

Losing some jets isn't a big deal, unless the jets are Barracudas, but as far as I know Barracudas need 2 shots. You can also plant gap generators near the jetfields.



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Posted 25 October 2014 - 08:05 AM

3 Risen Railguns cost as much as 2 Gap Generators. In BR2 one upgraded Powerplant(+300 power) can power up one Gap Generator in extended range mode(-300 power). It's no hassle really.

 

Or I could put the time and money spent on something else that's actually going to help me win the battle against my opponent, rather than spending it on something that can easily be tweaked. The Risen Railgun was meant to be placed to defend an area, with it's repair ability and it's weapon, not to be used to kill Allied Jets, which is what most people exploit it for. It's unnecessary to have that capability, one simple move for an Epsilon player and one long process for an Allied player, it doesn't equate to each other and it's imbalanced.

 

Losing some jets isn't a big deal, unless the jets are Barracudas, but as far as I know Barracudas need 2 shots. You can also plant gap generators near the jetfields.

 

"Losing some Jets isn't a big deal" - Someone who primarily used HQ

 

Tweaking the damage for the Risen Railgun against Jets wouldn't be a big deal either. The only people who would defend the Risen Railgun damage against Jets nerf would be wankers who use it for that purpose.


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#705 Petya

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 08:51 AM

Yes, you may lose a unit or more units which worth only 1200-1400 to one easily preventable support power. It isn't a big deal. After months you are the first one to complain about.



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Posted 25 October 2014 - 07:00 PM

You'd be crying too if your forced to carry an extremely heavy load of donkey excrement when walking...

 

Whos that? The Pyros? "OooohOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOaaah!" NAPALM MUTHAFUCKAHS. I'd be screaming with joy at the prospect of carrying hells-yes NAPALM. That embalming fluid is da BOMB!



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Posted 25 October 2014 - 10:08 PM

The have the same heavy shit as tesla troopers.

 

I'm just quoting you... so your saying every Soviet Soldier seems to be carrying tons of poop in their armor.


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#708 DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 04:36 PM

lolz, man... we gotta edumacate ya'll on the word "Shit", but FIRST! The word, "Fuck"

 

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OK, got the word FUCK memorized? Excellent. The next word, "shit", is pretty important too:

 

The word, "shit", basically means, "stuff" Example:

 

*Cellphone conversation*::

 

"Yo, thats some good shit! You done clean me out. Yo! I'm all outta product. Be ready, I'm on my way. What? Hey, don't gimme that shit you FUCK. I got this shit, aight? You get the fuck outta my way, so I can keep slinging mah shit - DON'T FUCK WITH MAH SHIT, AIGHT?..... aight, cool. Peace."



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Posted 26 October 2014 - 05:43 PM

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#710 DoMiNaNt_HuNtEr

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 06:54 PM

^^ OK, this lady needs to die, aight? her shit is disgusting.



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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:48 PM

Hey hey, no need to go aggressive on the poor lady. She didn't ask to be there. :p

 

On the topic about Risen Railguns, they do not kill Barracudas in one shot, so there is some leeway given. The "Your Base Is Under A Tack" message can also serve as a forewarning.

The Epsilon specializes in cheap tactics. So if you think that move is a dick move, you are right! It is quite as designed.

 

One way to deal with Fisen Failguns is to kill them on sight. 10 Allied siege cadres are quite efficient on the job. Of course you have to spend tons massing 10 of them, but considering your opponent has to spend to use the Railgun (and also get T3 for it), it kind of pays off.

 

EDIT: You probably will need less Siege Cadres. They have about 2 shots (assuming they are already there) before the Railgun has a chance.


Edited by lovalmidas, 26 October 2014 - 08:52 PM.

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 01:52 PM

Clearly someone doesn't understand sarcasm... Dominant_Hunter you keep going off-topic within your own posts get your own shit together before you start to criticize everybody else.

 

And as loval said, Epsilon is about underhanded tactics. They forcibly mutate their own soldiers and have no moral qualms about cloning their own forces,utilize chemical weapons just to achieve their own chances of getting a win in battle.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 02:34 PM

clearly mah shit is ABOVE AND BEYOND! The King needs moar soldiers. You now know what to do. Baoun-chicka-wow-wow-bounce! Repeat.

 

Heeeeey, d00de, I aint criticizing nobody, except for dat muthafucken monster of thing in that pic..... *shudders* now thats critical. Get the GUN! Fuck dat shit, and n00dles? We gotta get rid of this d0nkey. I just don't have enough room, man!


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#714 Protozoan

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:08 PM

clearly mah shit is ABOVE AND BEYOND! The King needs moar soldiers. You now know what to do. Baoun-chicka-wow-wow-bounce! Repeat.

 

Could you translate this to English?


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 03:38 PM

Please tell me what kind of hallucinogen you are taking.



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Posted 27 October 2014 - 04:33 PM

I suddenly find the urge to use him for conjuring wacky map names.  

 

Above and Beyond (2-4)

The King needs More (2-6)

Now That Is Critical (2-8)

Not Enough Room, Man! (2-8)

 

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:31 AM

Posts moved to Grinder.
Regarding your question, Protozoan, Siege Cadres already had their price decreased. Whether or not people will use them more due to that is up to you to decide.
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#718 Protozoan

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 02:15 PM

Slight armor buff suggested to all Jets to compensate for speed decrease.

 

Also wondering if the Jet glitch where they circle a target forever until moved has been fixed?


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 02:26 PM

That one can't be fixed entirely - silly engine.
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Posted 31 October 2014 - 07:55 PM

 

The have the same heavy shit as tesla troopers.

 

I'm just quoting you... so your saying every Soviet Soldier seems to be carrying tons of poop in their armor.

 

:facepalm:

 

http://dictionary.re...com/browse/shit

8. Slang. possessions, equipment, mementos, etc.; stuff.

 

 


Please tell me what kind of hallucinogen you are taking.

Amazing how mod staff expects to gain support for their project if they're going to be so uptight and flame anyone who says anything they don't like.


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