853 replies to this topic

[lovalmidas]

Why would anyone use it? The IFV acts as a troop carrier too. And SEAL IFVs make for more focused firepower (you can pack more firepower in fewer squares - especially when you deploy). I agree that GI IFV is better in some cases.

Edited by lovalmidas, 11 June 2014 - 06:25 AM.

[mevitar]

Or keep SEAL IFVs as they are, but give them CellSpread. Surprise! Area anti-infantry!

[MIG]

Allied need area anti-infantry unit. XD

[TIjey]

AI of any complexity, does not kill air units

[switchblade16]

Why would anyone use it? The IFV acts as a troop carrier too. And SEAL IFVs make for more focused firepower (you can pack more firepower in fewer squares - especially when you deploy). I agree that GI IFV is better in some cases.

 

better against armor vs SEAL IFV

[Toveena]

SEAL IFV is a joke compared to GI IFV, nuff said~

[MrFreeze777]

I looked at the code for MG IFV vs. SEAL IFV. The machine gun weapon does 25 damage in bursts of 2 with a 10 frame reload time. The SEAL IFV weapon does... oh. It has the EXACT same stats, except it uses the HollowpointSEAL warhead instead of the SSA warhead.
 
Really.

[CRM60]
Damage=25
Burst=2
ROF=10
Range=7
Projectile=InvisibleWork
Speed=100
Warhead=SSA ;Verses=100%,80%,65%,30%,20%,20%,20%,15%,10%,100%,100%

[CRMP5]
Damage=25
ROF=10
Burst=2
Range=7
Projectile=InvisibleWork
Speed=100
Warhead=HollowPointSEAL ;Verses=105%,95%,90%,30%,15%,8%,0%,0%,0%,100%,100%

 
Compared to SSA, HollowPointSEAL has slightly better verses against infantry but worse verses against vehicles and no ability to target structures.

The GI IFV: ~$600 (give or take $50) + $120 = $720
The SEAL IFV: ~$600 + $650 = $1250

So, the SEAL IFV is just a moderate improvement against heavy infantry for almost twice the cost per unit, not to mention a downgrade against anything else. Why would anyone use it?

For that similar price I could buy a Warhawk, a Prism Tank, or a Blizzard Tank which does a hell of a lot better at killing infantry than a SEAL IFV ever could. I agree with mevitar's idea. SEAL IFVs should get a buff that has CellSpread damage so it affects groups of infantry.

Edited by MrFreeze777, 12 June 2014 - 05:31 AM.

[Atomic_Noodles]

Maybe it could have cluster shots (Think Zephyr Shells) or give it CellSpread (Kirov Bombs) to provide AoE.

 

Alternatively make it like its Vanilla Mode where it shred infantry with less than 125 HP in 1 shot.

[X1Destroy]

Might be a little bit too much.....but the SEAL IFV is no longer inefficient now.

Damage=45
ROF=10
Burst=3
Range=7.5
Projectile=InvisibleWork
Speed=100
Warhead=HollowPointSEAL

 

Edited by X1Destroy, 12 June 2014 - 07:55 AM.

[MIG]

Might be a little bit too much.....but the SEAL IFV is no longer inefficient now.

Damage=45
ROF=10
Burst=3
Range=7.5
Projectile=InvisibleWork
Speed=100
Warhead=HollowPointSEAL

 

lol

[X1Destroy]

What's so funny?

[Divine]

Just an idea: give the Navy SEAL a shotgun instead of the MP-5. That way it would be more unique, and you could modify the SEAL IFV to be a close range, but brutally efficient infantry annihilator.

Edited by Divine, 12 June 2014 - 11:14 AM.

[Toveena]

Shotgun? you got it~

 

[FV]

BurstDelay0=0

 

[CRMP5]

Damage=35
ROF=30
Range=6
Projectile=InvisibleWorkspread
Speed=100
Warhead=SGSSA
Report=RobotTankHMG
Anim=MGUN-N,MGUN-NE,MGUN-E,MGUN-SE,MGUN-S,MGUN-SW,MGUN-W,MGUN-NW
Burst=4
Bright=yes

 

[InvisibleWorkspread]
Inviso=yes
Image=none
SubjectToCliffs=yes
SubjectToElevation=yes
SubjectToWalls=yes

Ranged=yes
Inaccurate=yes
FlakScatter=yes

 

[SGSSA]

CellSpread=.8
PercentAtMax=.5
Verses=100%,95%,90%,20%,16%,12%,0%,0%,0%,120%,100%
Versus.libra=50%
InfDeath=1
AnimList=PIFF
Bullets=yes
Wall=no
ProneDamage=80%
 

Edited by Toveena, 12 June 2014 - 03:16 PM.

[MIG]

Shotgun? you got it~
 
[FV]
BurstDelay0=0
 
[CRMP5]
Damage=35
ROF=30
Range=6
Projectile=InvisibleWorkspread
Speed=100
Warhead=SGSSA
Report=RobotTankHMG
Anim=MGUN-N,MGUN-NE,MGUN-E,MGUN-SE,MGUN-S,MGUN-SW,MGUN-W,MGUN-NW
Burst=4
Bright=yes
 
[InvisibleWorkspread]
Inviso=yes
Image=none
SubjectToCliffs=yes
SubjectToElevation=yes
SubjectToWalls=yes
Ranged=yes
Inaccurate=yes
FlakScatter=yes
 
[SGSSA]
CellSpread=.8
PercentAtMax=.5
Verses=100%,95%,90%,20%,16%,12%,0%,0%,0%,120%,100%
Versus.libra=50%
InfDeath=1
AnimList=PIFF
Bullets=yes
Wall=no
ProneDamage=80%
 

Range=7

[Sizyfos31]

Range of 7 is a bit too much for shotgun. Unless the shots at max range will be less powerful.

[Meyerm]

I don't think having a damage increase correlating with range is possible on the engine.

[Atomic_Noodles]

Needs a dummy invisible SHP Projectile...

; Degenerates = Does the bullet strength weaken as it travels (def=no)?

On the projectile of the Weapon.

[Graion Dilach]

Fact is that Degenerates acts too hardcoded. I don't like it because of that.

http://modenc.renega...com/Degenerates

[doctormedic]

Was the Stallins fist inspired from C&C TS firestorm's GDI Mobile war factory? 

Edited by doctormedic, 02 July 2014 - 07:48 AM.

[Rushing Russian]

Is it me or the Tesla Cruiser is preety underwhelming against other T3 vehicles?