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#141 Lord_Fryd

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:49 PM

It is a pity, I really enjoyed MiG!



#142 Petya

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:51 PM

Who knows. Perhaps they will be back sometime, but I'm not sure. :p



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:36 PM

Greetings, I'm H3adSh00t :p

I have a small issue on Epsilon Mission 3:Scrapyard, when the 2 Seawolfs come they don't arrive quick enough to counter or at least damage Warhawks and they level all my forces, even the 2 Tsivil I get. Was it planned to miss them or I need to lead them to Seawolfs?

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The Reseph seems to destroy buildings in one hit, whereas the Allied & Soviet siege vessels don't, it's like the Akula sub except far superior because of this, it can submerge and run away before the opponent can counter it, I remember playing a game with Headsh00t where he destroyed my navy of typhoon attack submarines with Piranha's & proceeded to bomb my base with Resephs, backed with Piranha's I didn't have much choice but to just sit in my base with lots of Flak units and try to take down the projectile before it hit my base, it seems to also have massive area of effect damage unlike the other Allied & Soviet vessels and obliterated a few groups of infantry.

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I remember that, for their price the Resephs are a bit too good. You only need 4 of them to end a game quick because 4 resephs destroy imediatley a CY, after that you can level the rest of the base. Also a small thing devs forgot, Resephs projectile is actually called V3 Rocket :>


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:58 PM

Hello H3adSh00t!  :smile2ap:

I agree, Reshephs are awesome but overpowered.

About the MiG discussion, I think that the "historic explanation" (soviet can't build MiGs due to the limitations imposed by the Allies at the end of the last war) doesn't make much sense: Soviet can build the ultimate war machine, the AI controlled Centurion, a jewel of science, and are not capable of create MiGs???
And also: if MiG cannot be built, how can Morales call a MiG airstrike?  :wacko:



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:04 PM

Hello H3adSh00t!  :smile2ap:

I agree, Reshephs are awesome but overpowered.

About the MiG discussion, I think that the "historic explanation" (soviet can't build MiGs due to the limitations imposed by the Allies at the end of the last war) doesn't make much sense: Soviet can build the ultimate war machine, the AI controlled Centurion, a jewel of science, and are not capable of create MiGs???
And also: if MiG cannot be built, how can Morales call a MiG airstrike?  :wacko:

China built the Centurion, not Soviet Russia. About the MIG airstrike, I guess the russkies just started producing them, and there are so few of them that they can not let them being used as cannon fodder aircraft.


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:24 PM

 

Hello H3adSh00t!  :smile2ap:

I agree, Reshephs are awesome but overpowered.

About the MiG discussion, I think that the "historic explanation" (soviet can't build MiGs due to the limitations imposed by the Allies at the end of the last war) doesn't make much sense: Soviet can build the ultimate war machine, the AI controlled Centurion, a jewel of science, and are not capable of create MiGs???
And also: if MiG cannot be built, how can Morales call a MiG airstrike?  :wacko:

China built the Centurion, not Soviet Russia. About the MIG airstrike, I guess the russkies just started producing them, and there are so few of them that they can not let them being used as cannon fodder aircraft.

 

But if chinese can build the Centurion, surely they have the technology for build MiGs, and for share them with other soviet nations!



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:18 PM

About the Resheph. Actually it's projectile can be shot down easily and the only thing that gives it an advantege that it is submerged. It might surprise you, but 4 Halftracks could shoot down 3 Resheph projectile. I've seen this so I'm not lying :p



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:50 PM

And also: if MiG cannot be built, how can Morales call a MiG airstrike?  :wacko:

 

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:54 PM

But if chinese can build the Centurion, surely they have the technology for build MiGs, and for share them with other soviet nations!

Why would they share it? Play the campaign and read the briefings, i think it is explained clearly there isn't any sharing at one point. :p

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:13 PM

 

But if chinese can build the Centurion, surely they have the technology for build MiGs, and for share them with other soviet nations!

Why would they share it? Play the campaign and read the briefings, i think it is explained clearly there isn't any sharing at one point. :p

 

Greedy Chinese bastards, always stealing stuff from the Pacific Front and not sharing it with the rest of the Soviets! They tried to kill me too, several times!* They even captured Volkov and Chitzkoi too during their invasion attempt! How about the Russians kidnap Yunru, let's see how they like it!

 

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:17 PM

 

 

But if chinese can build the Centurion, surely they have the technology for build MiGs, and for share them with other soviet nations!

Why would they share it? Play the campaign and read the briefings, i think it is explained clearly there isn't any sharing at one point. :p

 

Greedy Chinese bastards, always stealing stuff from the Pacific Front and not sharing it with the rest of the Soviets! They tried to kill me too, several times!* They even captured Volkov and Chitzkoi too during their invasion attempt! How about the Russians kidnap Yunru, let's see how they like it!

 

*Damn that mission "Unshakeable".

You mean,

 

SPOILER ALERT?!!!!


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:25 PM

 

 

 

But if chinese can build the Centurion, surely they have the technology for build MiGs, and for share them with other soviet nations!

Why would they share it? Play the campaign and read the briefings, i think it is explained clearly there isn't any sharing at one point. :p

 

Greedy Chinese bastards, always stealing stuff from the Pacific Front and not sharing it with the rest of the Soviets! They tried to kill me too, several times!* They even captured Volkov and Chitzkoi too during their invasion attempt! How about the Russians kidnap Yunru, let's see how they like it!

 

*Damn that mission "Unshakeable".

You mean,

 

SPOILER ALERT?!!!!

 

Oops, you did not know that? Well...

 

TOO BAD!!!!

 

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Anyways, I've noticed that Terror Drones can detect Spies. Isn't that supposed to be the Dogs' job? I find it really freaking annoying when a Terror Drone kills one of my spy units.


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:31 PM

T1 robot units for all sides can detect spies. It is an idea for the future to make Terror Drones detect stealth too just like the Robot Tank and Stinger, instead of Borillo.


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Posted 13 December 2013 - 10:36 PM

Terror Drones were always anti-spy, even in RA2.



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Posted 14 December 2013 - 12:18 AM

 

But if chinese can build the Centurion, surely they have the technology for build MiGs, and for share them with other soviet nations!

Why would they share it? Play the campaign and read the briefings, i think it is explained clearly there isn't any sharing at one point. :p

 

 

Well since they basically use half of the same units I figured they probably already share technology. To some degree.

 

I think Aircraft such as Jets would be fairly important for any Faction to have, I do miss the MiGs from MO 2.0 though.

 

Jets/Planes are important to any war, they were important in World War 2 and they've been important in the Cold War, Vietnam, the Gulf War, etc.

 

They have the same significance as a tank, so logically it just doesn't make much sense for the allies to have exclusive control over Jets.

 

P.S There is something wrong with the word color on this Forum :C


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#156 Atomic_Noodles

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Posted 14 December 2013 - 01:00 AM

Your the only one I see using green font in here your the one standing out too much. I'm using the default Theme which is lighter colors so idk whats wrong with yours probably Moniter?

 

Each Faction has their own Gunship Unit anyway. The Jets are the main gimmick of the Allies...


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:28 AM

T1 robot units for all sides can detect spies. It is an idea for the future to make Terror Drones detect stealth too just like the Robot Tank and Stinger, instead of Borillo.

 

Gonna have to agree with this.  I built more Borillos than needed normally in some battles due to their stealth detection.  Granted, they have great armor to make up for their cost compared to the Stinger and Robot Tank, but it being tier 2 gives the Soviets a little disadvantage when detecting stealth early.  Plus giving detection to Terror Drones will give them more use in battle especially against stealthy opponents, mostly noted, HQ's Shadow Tanks or wandering Epsilon miners.

A question I want to ask that is if Terror Drones were to get Stealth Detection, would it be fair to make them cost an extra $50, or leave em the way they are now cost-wise?


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 05:36 AM

Nah they're fine as $500, Do remember they're the most lightly armored among the robotic units as well and they end up "dying" if you end up killing the units they infected.


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 06:07 AM

Your the only one I see using green font in here your the one standing out too much. I'm using the default Theme which is lighter colors so idk whats wrong with yours probably Moniter?

 

Each Faction has their own Gunship Unit anyway. The Jets are the main gimmick of the Allies...

 

Sometimes the color doesn't work properly and I have to edit it to make it green again. lol


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Posted 14 December 2013 - 07:54 AM

Capture a Chinese airfield in Dragonstorm and we can build hailfox fighter :flameblast:


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