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[Graion Dilach]

The issue with MO 2.0 crate trucks was that such unit's prices are affected by Industrial Plant. Ah, and crate gives random amount of moniez iirc.

[Divine]

Is it possible to create a "supply drop" support power somehow? With a cargo plane coming in and dumping a bunch of money crates at the target location. Such a support power could be linked to a new tech building, "Tech Supply Depot" or something like that.

[Atomic_Noodles]

My idea was that you'd have it delivered via a superweapon and thus the unit won't get discounted (with an Industrial Plant) Another way to deliver it and not so suddenly instantaneous would be as you suggested would be doing it with a paradrop. Dropping in the Unit. which in turn deploys into a Dummy Building that kills itself that spawns a crate but as Graion said using Cash Crates sometimes provides random amounts of cash. But that's that...

 

To someone's question... nope you can't have anti-air suicide aircraft. (The Rockets)

[Divine]

My idea was that you'd have it delivered via a superweapon and thus the unit won't get discounted (with an Industrial Plant) Another way to deliver it and not so suddenly instantaneous would be as you suggested would be doing it with a paradrop. Dropping in the Unit. which in turn deploys into a Dummy Building that kills itself that spawns a crate but as Graion said using Cash Crates sometimes provides random amounts of cash. But that's that...

 

To someone's question... nope you can't have anti-air suicide aircraft. (The Rockets)

Random cash can be fixed (I think), but even if not, it shouldn't be much of a problem, as long as the cost of the superweapon is the same, or a bit more than the average income from crates.

[Graion Dilach]

Divine, have a read.

 

http://forums.renega...=12888#pid12888

 

The CrateBeneathIsMoney tag only fixes that the crate will give you money but nothing regarding the amount. No, skirmish is not SP within game terms.

 

Also, yes, surprise.... RenProj lives again.

Edited by Graion Dilach, 04 August 2014 - 11:43 AM.

[AngelFaux]

Maybe I might as well bring up the old topic about tech units, since I think each of the subfactions already got enough.

How about adding more tech units? (Ground and naval ones)

Maybe the devs can add something like Tech Naval Research Facility or something which gives access to tech units to a player who captured it. (similar to tech secret lab, I suppose)

Although I got some suggestions about the units, I think I'll wait for the responses first.

Well, maybe this suggestion sounds unnecessary since a similar kind of suggestion was answered with a 'no' in the past.

[Karpet]

^ epic fail kivz strikes again...

How about a Tech Subway Station? If you capture it, you can put troops in it and eject them at the next that is captured by you. Not sure if it would work though..

Tech Armory: Gives all infantry a 20% buff in firepower (maybe too OP?), making Armories a thing to really fight over and want. Beware, they explode dangerously when destroyed.

What do you guys think? Maybe I'll flesh this out more.

[Atomic_Noodles]

Tunnel System (By Tunnel I mean like how it is in Generals) doesn't exist.

 

So how would the Armory Work? Would it unlock a support power or does it just buff nearby units like the Coord Node?

 

As advice for future posters just ignore Kivz and his posts.

[Karpet]

The Armory would give a map wide buff to all infantry, at least thats how I think it would work, though a support power is not out of the question if it is too overpowered.

[Petya]

As far as I know such thing isn't possible.

[Atomic_Noodles]

Not possible. Close comparison to what your trying to do would be the Coord Node and the Nuclear Reactor's Energy boost (Which is already pushed to the max to how big since the foundation is also taken into account)

[Meyerm]

How does it work for machine shops and hospitals then?

[Atomic_Noodles]

They use a totally different logic..

 

; Tech Machine Shop

[CAMACH]

UIName=Name:CAMACH

Name=Tech Machine Shop

TechLevel=-1

Strength=800

Cost=3000

Insignificant=yes

IsBase=no

Nominal=yes

BaseNormal=no

Sight=6

Points=5

Armor=concrete

VoiceSelect=MachShopSelect

MaxDebris=8

MinDebris=4

Capturable=yes

CaptureEvaEvent=EVA_MachineShopCaptured

NeedsEngineer=yes

Unsellable=yes

Explosion=TWLT070,S_BANG48,S_BRNL58,S_CLSN58,S_TUMU60

DamageParticleSystems=SmallGreySSys,BigGreySmokeSys

LeaveRubble=yes ;no

UnitsGainSelfHeal=1

RadarVisible=yes

SuperWeapon=EmergencyRepairSpecial

 

; Tech Hospital

[CATHOSP]

UIName=Name:CAHOSP

Name=Tech Hospital

Image=CAHOSP

TechLevel=-1

Strength=800

Cost=3000

Insignificant=yes

VoiceSelect=HospitalSelect

IsBase=no

Nominal=yes

BaseNormal=no

Sight=6

Points=5

Armor=concrete

Explosion=TWLT070,S_BANG48,S_BRNL58,S_CLSN58,S_TUMU60

MaxDebris=6

DebrisAnims=Dbris3sm,Dbris4lg,Dbris4sm,Dbris6sm,Dbris7lg,Dbris7sm,Dbris8sm,Dbris9lg,Dbris10lg,Dbris10sm

DamageParticleSystems=SmallGreySSys,BigGreySmokeSys

Capturable=yes

CaptureEvaEvent=EVA_HospitalCaptured

NeedsEngineer=yes

Unsellable=yes

LeaveRubble=yes ;no

InfantryGainSelfHeal=1

RadarVisible=yes

SuperWeapon=MedicalAidSpecial

 

Support Powers aside...Those bolded codes are what gives those 2 structures the ability to heal units.

Edited by Atomic_Noodles, 11 August 2014 - 12:24 AM.

[Karpet]

Oh well, I guess then its a support power.

"Armament Drop" (name needs work, but it's basically that)
Recharge Time: 4:30
Cost: 1350$
Radius: 4 by 4 cells (if not, 3 by 3)
Effects: By dropping more effective types of ammunition (inciendiaries, armor piercing rounds, etc) and armor (like inserts into armor), infantry gain a 35% boost to firepower and 15% to armor.

If this doesn't appeal, then it could become a crate drop, with a 5 by 5 cell radius, but exploding violently when destroyed. That way, it could become an effective defence, and maybe it could affect vehicles too.

[Graion Dilach]

Not possible. Close comparison to what your trying to do would be the Coord Node and the Nuclear Reactor's Energy boost (Which is already pushed to the max to how big since the foundation is also taken into account)

Actually, Ares 0.7 added infinite CellSpreads, so it's possible but laggy.

[Codename_Ramiel]

Hi I'm new to the forums but have following Speeder's and Co. mod for a long time. I really love this mod and all the hard work put in for the fans, I just want to make a suggestion. I was wondering if it is considered that the 9 sub factions get their own basic infantry like they do for tanks. For example, 

 

Russia - Red Guard

Latin - Rebel

China - Conscript (I more came to this conclusion when the population of China is huge and mass infantry was a tactic employed more so in Mao's time)

 

I understand infantry are probably harder to work on then vehicles, but just wondering people's thoughts, just to give more depth to the factions (although there's a lot already). Thoughts?

 

[Divine]

Hi I'm new to the forums but have following Speeder's and Co. mod for a long time. I really love this mod and all the hard work put in for the fans, I just want to make a suggestion. I was wondering if it is considered that the 9 sub factions get their own basic infantry like they do for tanks. For example, 

 

Russia - Red Guard

Latin - Rebel

China - Conscript (I more came to this conclusion when the population of China is huge and mass infantry was a tactic employed more so in Mao's time)

 

I understand infantry are probably harder to work on then vehicles, but just wondering people's thoughts, just to give more depth to the factions (although there's a lot already). Thoughts?

 

Red Guard should be Chinese and Conscript should be Soviet, not the other way around. I think everyone tought of this, But it's quite pointless without giving a special ability to each basic infantry (like, bayonette charge for the Red Guard, molotov coctails for the conscript, deploying sandbags for the GI). Also, I'm not sure how it would work with the crews of destroyed / sold structures, or paradrops.

[Speeder]

There won't be subfaction-specific basic infantry, too much work for too little effect.

[Atomic_Noodles]

So no Subfaction Specifc Anti-Air/Anti-Armor Basic Infantry or just the Basic Anti-Infantry?

[Petya]

Sub-faction specific basic infantries would be cool, however as Speeder said too much work for little effect. Also it would be hard to balance.

Edited by Petya, 15 August 2014 - 09:11 AM.