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#1001 Shelbythetriagularsquare

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 12:32 PM

All we can do is hope for the best I suppose, also I really think Yunru is dead, Idk why it's just a strong feeling (Maybe because I really hate her voice over and I want her to die ASAP, idk really)


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 01:30 PM

Hey! ATheatricalSongBird made it cute enough to perform a voiceover for Yunru. But I hope one day more voiceover of her would be heard :( It's cute. Music to my ears. 


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 02:24 PM

She did a great job indeed. Her Libra is a good example of a well-made VO. But I also hope to hear more of Irkalla's voice actress, she's good too.

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 02:59 PM

Or maybe Siegfried dies and Mirage tech was lost along with him.

The only involvement Allied has is the jackals in Kanegawa complex in Think Different.

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 03:04 PM

Or maybe Siegfried dies and Mirage tech was lost along with him.


Explain phantasm MLRS then

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 03:26 PM

She did a great job indeed. Her Libra is a good example of a well-made VO. But I also hope to hear more of Irkalla's voice actress, she's good too.

Elspeth Eastman is the one who did that. She's funny af.

 

Back to the topic.

Siegfried could die but not the Mirage technology. Must be Euro-Pacific survivors who acquired those. The Jackals may have been delivered already to China after the events of Act 1. Ya know? Like post-Act I events. 


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 04:27 PM

Sounds obnoxious and irritating to me, each to his own though.

 

Irkalla on the other hand, that's great, I I like the work they did on it.


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Posted 24 July 2017 - 06:07 PM

Or maybe Siegfried dies and Mirage tech was lost along with him.


Explain phantasm MLRS then

 

To the Foehn, the Mirage Tank is one of the technologies lost in the chaos that unfolded during the Battle for Antarctica. Upon finding an Allied Tech Center, chances are that Clairvoyants will be able to recover this piece of technology.

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Posted 24 July 2017 - 07:50 PM

Or maybe Siegfried dies and Mirage tech was lost along with him.

Explain phantasm MLRS then
 

To the Foehn, the Mirage Tank is one of the technologies lost in the chaos that unfolded during the Battle for Antarctica. Upon finding an Allied Tech Center, chances are that Clairvoyants will be able to recover this piece of technology.

--from wiki

Yeah, but surely Foehn fighting Allieds breaks the lore as there is no allieds or soviets left, unless epsilon has mind controlled some of the bases

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 12:59 AM

Huh? Isn't Foehn formed from Allied-Soviet shattered remains?


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 02:30 AM

it doesn't have to say that Allied are fighting foehn, plus it could also be mind-controlled one id they have to.

Also yes, the Mirage tech being lost was quoted exactly from Phantasm MLRS

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 09:28 AM

 

 

 

Or maybe Siegfried dies and Mirage tech was lost along with him.

Explain phantasm MLRS then
 

To the Foehn, the Mirage Tank is one of the technologies lost in the chaos that unfolded during the Battle for Antarctica. Upon finding an Allied Tech Center, chances are that Clairvoyants will be able to recover this piece of technology.

--from wiki

Yeah, but surely Foehn fighting Allieds breaks the lore as there is no allieds or soviets left, unless epsilon has mind controlled some of the bases

 

Try all of the bases?

 

Huh? Isn't Foehn formed from Allied-Soviet shattered remains?

That's somewhat doubtful, at least in the sense that Allied-Soviet remnants being the core of the foundation. No doubt Yunru and co will get some survivors on these factions on board. It would be quite difficult to start up the Foehn Army without any manpower, you know. But I doubt the main forces seen in Allied and Soviet campaigns will be involved directly


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 12:21 PM

 

Yeah, but surely Foehn fighting Allieds breaks the lore as there is no allieds or soviets left, unless epsilon has mind controlled some of the bases

 

The whole idea of stolen tech is incompatible with lore (why do you have to steal some super secret tech from an army identical to yours in order to put three Adepts inside a Dybbuk jet?). However, the fact is that the official website (yes, I know that the wiki is not very reliable) states that the mirage tech was lost in the chaos of the battle of Antarctica.



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Posted 25 July 2017 - 12:36 PM

The whole idea of stolen tech is incompatible with lore (why do you have to steal some super secret tech from an army identical to yours in order to put three Adepts inside a Dybbuk jet?). However, the fact is that the official website (yes, I know that the wiki is not very reliable) states that the mirage tech was lost in the chaos of the battle of Antarctica.

 

Yeah, but surely Foehn fighting Allieds breaks the lore as there is no allieds or soviets left, unless epsilon has mind controlled some of the bases

Thank you for saying this.


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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:26 PM

"Stolen Tech" is the gameplay name, basically. You send a spy to steal blueprints from a battle lab and conyard.

In lore, it's completely different. Iron Dragons are part of the proto-Foehn arsenal, Apocalypse are still part of the core Soviet army, Salamanders are like a worse-case scenario alternate future of Foehn and may not exist in campaign.


That being said, I wonder if we'll be able to use more stolen tech units in the campaign.

Quickshifter is a possibility because the lore states that it's development was halted in favour of the Paradox Engine. Allies may finish it in time for the final battle with Yuri.

Iron Dragons were used by proto-Foehn but maybe all of the original designs were destroyed alongside the MIDAS in Thread of Dread.

Wormqueen, Scavenger, and Dybbuk-Seizer are all reasonable. If Yuri mind controls Allies and Soviets, he would have the technology to construct these units.

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Posted 25 July 2017 - 03:51 PM

you forgot future tanks, which already existed back in Act1, what saddens me is that we may never see Lion hearts or Grumbles are lore units (unless we get to use them for a missions or two in the future).



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Posted 25 July 2017 - 08:49 PM

you forgot future tanks, which already existed back in Act1, what saddens me is that we may never see Lion hearts or Grumbles are lore units (unless we get to use them for a missions or two in the future).

What we see in S11 Unshakable is Future Tank X-0 while the stolen tech is Future Tank Alpha. The latter is superior in every way save its cost (X-0 costs 0 1400)


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Posted 26 July 2017 - 12:49 AM

Yeah. Without enough manpower; you can't start a revolution. I agree with that. Also, that Dybbuk-Seizer? It might be Rashidi's hidden inventions; hidden throughout the Africa. Unseen in the eyes of all proselytes and by extension, Yuri himself. 


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Posted 26 July 2017 - 01:52 AM

I feel that we'll see proto-foehn missions where you try to liberate allied and soviet forces from yuri's mind control to inflate your numbers.

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Posted 27 July 2017 - 06:32 PM

My only prediction at this point is that I think at the end of the Foehn campaign we will find out that a believing heart is magic.

 

I'm still kinda hoping that at least Siegfried survives somewhat. If not body, then mind. And if you prefer, soul. Yunru definitely survived Thread of Dread tho.






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