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[Solais]

Not with that attitude! Everything the Foehn represents was impossible a few years ago.

[Handepsilon]

 

Everything the Foehn represents was impossible a few years ago.

 

What

[Solais]

As in, Foehn itself is based on multiple features introduced by Ares, and wouldn't be possible otherwise.

 

Even now in the latest one, we got new features like the improved unit transform logic, where you can deploy a unit or infantry to turn into a completely different unit or infantry (can only turn into the same type though, so no unit to infantry transformation; also, unfortunately can't turn a helicopter into a ship because helicopter can't land on water). Or have a unit turn into another unit when it enters water. This can enable some versatile units that act differently on water than on land, or even a naval unit that could switch between ship mode and sub mode.

 

This transformation can also happen on veterancy, so there can be a unique unit that changes based on that.

Edited by Solais, 23 August 2018 - 06:41 AM.

[BlackAbsence]

This transformation can also happen on veterancy, so there can be a unique unit that changes based on that.

Interesting.

 

Elite infantry transformation ideas:

Spoiler

- Field medic: Additionally applies an armour buff of %50, upon healing, when elite. (How does one get an elite medic? Crates? Idk)

- Rocketeer: Periodically launches a mini-missile, when elite.

- Navy SEAL: Gains a suppressor which does not alert the opponent via EVA (similar to Malver), when elite.

- Sniper: Gains a ghillie suit which makes him invisible while still, and gains a suppressor which does not alert the opponent via EVA (similar to Malver), when elite.

- Tesla trooper: Attacks additionally EMP targets for a slight duration, when elite.

- Crazy Ivan: Their time bombs need less time in order to explode, when elite.

- Desolator: Turns into an erradicator, when elite.

- Eradicator: Is now just an elite "desolator" straight from the barracks.

- Brute: Gains super regeneration while in low health (similar to the bison tank), when elite.

- Epsilon adept: Turns into an epsilon elite... when elite...

- Epsilon elite: Is now just an elite "epsilon adept" straight from the barracks.

- Virus: Gains a prototype chemera-core which makes her invisible while still, and she does not alert the opponent via EVA (similar to Malver), when elite.

- All foehn infantry: Gains immunity to poison, radiation, freeze, EMP, and mind control (similar to the gharial), when elite.

Edited by BlackAbsence, 23 August 2018 - 08:07 AM.

[Handepsilon]

I'm....

 

I'm just going to stay silent for now...

[TY229]

let's throw balance into the garbage bin yes

[JackoDerp]

What.

Edited by JackoDerp, 23 August 2018 - 10:37 AM.

[Divine]

Suppressed weapons that do not trigger an EVA response are actually interesting, and should be added in some form.

[Handepsilon]

It already did. Malver

[BlackAbsence]

What? You guys don't like the idea of utilising a new Ares feature that make elite infantry slightly more interesting? 

[TY229]

The buff they currently get is more than enough, this suggestion is just ridiculous.

[Handepsilon]

 

You guys don't like the idea of utilising a new Ares feature that make elite infantry drastically more unbalanced?

FTFY. We don't

 

Let me remind you. MO intentionally made veterancy less significant. Why would they rollback that decision now?

Edited by Handepsilon, 23 August 2018 - 11:13 AM.

[BlackAbsence]

Lol in what way is this imbalanced? There's no damage values even presented (besides the erradicator one). Elite status should count for something but I agree that it shouldn't be too powerful.

Elite infantry never really show up, anyway. 

Edited by BlackAbsence, 23 August 2018 - 11:23 AM.

[TY229]

- All foehn infantry: Gains immunity to poison, radiation, freeze, EMP, and mind control (similar to the gharial), when elite.

 

how is this not too powerful ??

Edited by TY229, 23 August 2018 - 11:23 AM.

[BlackAbsence]

 

- All foehn infantry: Gains immunity to poison, radiation, freeze, EMP, and mind control (similar to the gharial), when elite.

 

how is this not too powerful ??

 

Well, let's see, no one really uses freeze on infantry, gas and radiation already do pretty much nothing to them anyway, emp is something nano-synced ones already have, and mind control's just there because why not? who would mind control infantry anyway? you're better off using mind control on tanks. (unless it's like a giantsbane)

[TY229]

lol

[JackoDerp]

- All foehn infantry: Gains immunity to poison, radiation, freeze, EMP, and mind control (similar to the gharial), when elite.

 
how is this not too powerful ??

Well, let's see, no one really uses freeze on infantry, gas and radiation already do pretty much nothing to them anyway, emp is something nano-synced ones already have, and mind control's just there because why not? who would mind control infantry anyway? you're better off using mind control on tanks. (unless it's like a giantsbane)

That's a Joke right?
Please tell me you're joking.

OH GOD HES NOT JOKING
HELP

Edited by JackoDerp, 23 August 2018 - 11:30 AM.

[Sizyfos31]

My opinion on transformation for infantry is just to make unbalanced heroes more balanced. Just like Volkov. give him two modes : the standard one where he deals damage and alternate one where the damage is greatly reduced but can EMP just like now.

Edited by Sizyfos31, 23 August 2018 - 11:47 AM.

[BlackAbsence]

You're right. It's all just a joke. Harr harr.

[Handepsilon]

So.... let's see, no EMP and Irradiation, so Volkov and Yunru EMP are nulled, and Desolator/Eradicator can't damage them.... You're basically telling Soviets, especially Russia and China... to just fuck off when Foehn infantries get elite....

 

Ok dude, ok.