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#201 Canterbury

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 10:33 PM

I greatly disagree on any other factions having archer riders, because it should be a rohan exclusive thing. However, if Khand is going to be portrayed like the mongols, then they should have mounted archers. From my history textbook i kept a while back. "On war ponies they wielded large bows that required a hundred pounds to pull, and blew thundering horns to terrify the inhabitants"

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Posted 08 March 2007 - 11:56 PM

I agree with you that only Rohan should have mounted archers, but if Harad is going to be the evil cavalry faction, it would be up to the modders.
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 12:02 AM

One of the Dale minifactions already has cavalry archers.
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 02:05 AM

Nevermind us then.
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 02:07 AM

I thought that Dale only had one calvary unit. ;) Well the more the merrier ;)

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 05:24 AM

To me it would make sense for Khand to be the Elite cavalry supplier of Harad, but not to have horse-archers. Probably just really good cavalry with upped stats, that should do fine. Or some really unique cavalry units.
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 08:05 AM

You don't need to be the best horsemen in middle-earth to fire a bow from horseback.

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 08:26 AM

Does that imply that Khand have mounted archers, if so that would make Khand an evil rip-off of Rohan, would it?
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 11:13 AM

Maybe Nert only said something logical ;)

cause, well... you all do make it sound like only the Rohirrim can have mounted archers ;)

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 11:42 AM

Yeah, cause horse archers are such a unique thing. It's not like the Noldor used them extensively during the First Age is it?

In FOTR somewhere, it says that there were horsed archers coming from the east.
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 03:35 PM

I'm just saying that horse archers aren't unique to Rohan... their strength lies not necessarily in having the most powerful cavalry, but that they can field all types of cavalry, something no other faction (with or without its minifactions) can do. Plus they have a unique class of cavalry that is the best in the game.

edit: oh, except wargs. Expect Isengard to be the best Rohan-killer now.

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 03:40 PM

nice ;) I've always loved wargs... but only in the movie... in the game they weren't my favorite...

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 04:00 PM

I agree Nertea. Personally I always though Rohan's cavalry strength came purely from the amount of cavalry they could muster. Not to say they're not skilled of course, but personally I'd take a Gondor Knight over a Rider of Rohan anyday of the week.
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Posted 09 March 2007 - 05:17 PM

maybe, but the elite guards of the kings where also quite skilled on horseback I believe ;)

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Posted 10 March 2007 - 01:05 AM

I'm just saying that horse archers aren't unique to Rohan... their strength lies not necessarily in having the most powerful cavalry, but that they can field all types of cavalry, something no other faction (with or without its minifactions) can do. Plus they have a unique class of cavalry that is the best in the game.

edit: oh, except wargs. Expect Isengard to be the best Rohan-killer now.


Well, can't Harad have all sorts of cavalry, too? Also, are you saying wargs are the strongest cavalry in the game?
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 02:26 AM

Hopefully not. I'd hate being Rohan and having my calvary be destroyed by wargs who were supposed to be less powerful than the Rohirrim in patch 1.3 or 1.03 which ever one it was

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Posted 10 March 2007 - 05:34 AM

Of course the Wargs aren't gonna be the strongest cavalry in the game. That would be plain stupid, unless you meant strongest as most damaging. Anyway, no the Rohirrim didn't have the best cavalry in all of Middle-Earth (the Elves of Imladris and Dol Amroth were big rivals in that department), it was just that they used them extensively and, as Nertea and zimoo said, how much cavalry they could muster. To me it personally wouldn't fit for Khand to have archer-cavalry, but if the team decides so...well, it's their decision anyway. ;) I wouldn't mind seeing Warg archer-cavalry; there were many in the movies.
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 06:48 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing Warg archer-cavalry; there were many in the movies.

And also on the palantir pic for wargs, the orc is holding a bow. I disagree on Isen having mounted archers.
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 07:06 AM

Nah, I reckon it would be a nice addition, give them an extra option for a unit.
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Posted 10 March 2007 - 08:48 AM

So Wargs > Rohirrim
what about after upgrades?
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