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[olli]

no pheonix, im not gonna say its good, how do you know what im gonna say? i actually know it is an utter piece of wank. seriously. but the cadet version has an ennormous cocking handle, and you can only fire it after you cock it, and then you have to cock it again. its based on the SA80 , but not the SA 80, its called the L98A1 GP rifle. and it is not that accurate. same with the SA 80. they are standard issue rifles, and i would definatly have an AK, has they are the most reliable guns. you can fire it with parts missing, you can fire it with parts in bakwards, you can fire it after being completly immersed in water. and they are powerful. the SA80 jams up easily and so does the L98.

i like the idea of only 2 factions sharing heros. and i think they need a revamp as they are pretty unpowerful at times.

[Phoenix911]

The SA80 is a bullpup rifle olli, for its kind it is very accurate, of course a standard rifle not a bullpup having a longer barrel and such has a higher accuracy.

And all guns unless specialy designed will only fire 1 round underwater olli, the ejection system relys on pressure and with all that extra water pressure on it the shell caseing dose not come out and jams in the exit.

Aks are reliable olli but parts can't be put in backwards nore have missing parts, i never heard of any gun being able to fire with parts missing..... "O look lets remove the fireing pin or the blowback system.... i am sure it will work honest"
There maybe a gun in life that can have one missing part or something but i doult it, Each part was made to do something on the gun.
And i not talking about accecorys(sp) as there only optional parts.

Anyways i love the ak's but i would not say there the best rifles olli, there the most world known and alot of countrys use them or veriations of them, BUT tech and design has moved on and ther are plenty of guns that can be just as deadly or even more so and as reliable as the ak now.
The problem imo with the AK's is the basick design on them has changed little, there has been changes but imo all aks are near enough simler to the last.
Ak74 is nearly the same as the ak47 the only main differance is the caliber its chamberd in.

[GSE_Devastation]

Hero's in DoW not overpowerd? Ehm, ever seen a Necron Lord? Well if u haven't:
It can rise your intire army (that was already killed) to a pop cap of 34! Thats 88 Necron warriors, and when they get killed again(if the enemy isn't death yet) u can do it again, res orb.
It cloaks a large section of your army, veil of darknes.
It has a power thats allow u to move at normal speed and the enemy in slow, chronometron.
It Has invincebilitie for about 30 secs that will still allow him to heal Phase shifter.
It Teleports....
It can use Guass Lighting that will kill most units in a stuning AoE, Lighting field.
It can use a kind of scream that makes the entire enemy army to brack up and retreat, Nightmare shroud.
It casts a blinding light that will make the enemy troops stop shooting, solar pulse.
It can arm hisself with scarabs, repairing its body like crazy, phylactery.

And on top of all it can transform in a C'Tan (starGODS), The Nightbringer, this unit will rape any other uber it also is unvinceble, for 2 min.

Even most of this is on a timer. And u only can use 3 of the Artifacts + The Essence of The Nightbringer, this unit win battles.

Also in Dow The Force Commander (in tier 4) Can totally obliverat any bassees with orbital bombarment.

Anyway, this is not a flame post, maybe we can "lend"one of the Ideas from DoW for a great hero's, just a sugestion. If the engine alows it.

Regards,
Devastation

[Pendaelose]

Actualy, I have played with the Necron Lord, and this is a perfect example of my feelings... The Necron Lord IS overpowered and he is one of my least favorite characters. If he could join a squad, and if he lost the Night Bringer upgrade I'd be ok with him. And the resurection orb needs some balance changes as well... forevample bodies should timeout and not be revivable indefinatly.

Thebombardment is also very strong, but to me it is less unbalanced than the night bringer. Many factions have some kind of powerful strike akin to a superweapon.

The feature I liked about dawn of wars heros (most of them) are not posible in Zero Hour.

[olli]

pend that sig is awsome!!! how do you make them like that?

pheonix, dont be so literate, ofc you cant fire it with out the firing pin or trigger. i mean less important parts, where as normal guns wont function unless all the parts are there. trust me please. my uncle was in the forigen legion, and he didnt speak a word of french, and he did so well for himself. one test was to assemble an ak/or any gun blindfolded, and the gun parts were all mixed up and mixed in with different gun parts. im saying that it can fire after being submersed in water, not actually in the water. other guns wouldnt fire, as parts being wet wouldnt allow this to happen.
most automatic guns rely on pressure. the pressure that comes from the firing of the round is used to eject it. all the AK range are reliable. i would prefere an Ak07 lol or an ak99. the best rifle at the moment, of reliability and accuracy and weight is the m16 colt. they weigh less than an xbox console when fully loaded!

[Pendaelose]

pend that sig is awsome!!! how do you make them like that?

sadly the admins have commanded I remove it until I can shrink the file size.

[Phoenix911]

pend that sig is awsome!!! how do you make them like that?

pheonix, dont be so literate, ofc you cant fire it with out the firing pin or trigger. i mean less important parts, where as normal guns wont function unless all the parts are there. trust me please. my uncle was in the forigen legion, and he didnt speak a word of french, and he did so well for himself. one test was to assemble an ak/or any gun blindfolded, and the gun parts were all mixed up and mixed in with different gun parts. im saying that it can fire after being submersed in water, not actually in the water. other guns wouldnt fire, as parts being wet wouldnt allow this to happen.
most automatic guns rely on pressure. the pressure that comes from the firing of the round is used to eject it. all the AK range are reliable. i would prefere an Ak07 lol or an ak99. the best rifle at the moment, of reliability and accuracy and weight is the m16 colt. they weigh less than an xbox console when fully loaded!

Most guns will fire under water olli but if u fire it under water it will be one shot and if u do shoot then u better hit your target, But bullets underwaters aswell don't have penatration.
I watched this tv program *will try to remember it* where they fired a 9mm and a 44 magnam both fired fine under water but only had a kill range of about 5 feet max, All the water friction and pressure slow them to a near stop.
Higher calliber rounds simply slipt up, When fired out of water into water the bullets will only go down about 6 feet, so basicly if u being shot jump in water and dive fast to about 8feet and u should be ok.
Even a 50 cal AP round wont go down infact the bigger guns will have there rounds brack up in 1-2 feet.

But anyways i ramberling, My point is olli alot of guns will fire in water so they will fire out of water after being submerged. Even the old M1 Garand (ww2) fires underwater.

And i do like Ak's and they are reliable olli never said they was not, only saying that most all aks are just a remake of an old ak but the system remaisn near enough untouched.... Kinda pointless if u ask me, why make a new version of an ak47 turn it into an ak74 with smaller caliber But then improve on that by making ak107? and so forth where they all use the same type of fireing system.
All Ak's are pretty much similer.
But still i think there great guns, But they are no longer the best or most reliable, with modern tech comes new gun designs and so forth. I am sure there are guns now that can out proform the Ak's.

My personal fav gun is the XM8, damn i upset about it never entering service but damn they was nice.
And olli all parts in guns have a use, Untill u show me proof that the ak or any gun can work with missing parts then i wont beleave you, Sorry to say but all guns have parts that was put in them for a reason.... I very much doubt that any gun manufatuar will say "O look this guns working but lets add another 30 things that don't really do something just because it looks better"
And if any gun dose fire with 1 or 2 missing parts olli then i highly doult they would work for more than 10 rounds if that. As i said guns have parts for a reason and all parts are there for a reason.

PS: NEVER fire a shotgun under water, on this program i trying to remember they did as a test and it well blow up.

[Pendaelose]

pend that sig is awsome!!! how do you make them like that?

Its been restored... Same great taste, but now less filling.

http://img235.images...imation3qn8.gif

I used JASC Paint Shop Pro and Animation Shop Pro.

In detail:

I created a 2 layer image. The fade to black and the Remix logo were on the top layer, then I just pasted screenshots into the lower layer and clonebrushed out the edges to make them fit the Signature.

Then I moved the pics over to Animation Shop. I used a tool to create the transition frames and compiled it into a GIF. Later I had to clean out some extra frames and resize the image to drop the file size.

[Phoenix911]

heh i have no idea how to do sigs and gifs, i not very arty haha.

[GSE_Devastation]

Yeah, the entire faction of teh Necrons is broken....
I play SM and it's hard to win vs Necrons with out using Landspeeders
Also, I didn't know wich version of Dow your where playing.
Atleast in the first one Bombardment was heavlily OP. Thought it's fixed now.
also the nightbringer upgrade isn't that good, it still needs to kil one man by one and it buildings damage sucks, the only thing wrong about it is that it can kill any uber unit (deamon_high and Vech_high)


But stil it's a good sign u made there

[Bozopof]

well i dont see the point in calling them "Heroes" they look more than Zeroes here. if you compare them to other Contra units they r all weak.

[Ubermedic]

well i dont see the point in calling them "Heroes" they look more than Zeroes here. if you compare them to other Contra units they r all weak.

That was kinda the point of this entire conversation.
But I digress.
Although Pend said he did not want a new unit class for every side....
I say that each side should get a specialized class. Or at least every two sides. Or hell just each country.
I.E. Assault + Demo = Grenadier (I really like this guy if you can't tell) A.F. and SupW = Heavy Weapons
Flame + Tank = Mortar Soldiers...
Can you see where I'm going?

[Death_Pheonix]

a less laggy-shell map, i know theres a lot of work, but it would be good at final point of the mod to make a custom shell-map.

[Ubermedic]

a less laggy-shell map, i know theres a lot of work, but it would be good at final point of the mod to make a custom shell-map.

Don't bring up shell maps. Last time we brought up shell maps...
*Looks at phoenix* But if your good at mapping by all means.

[Pendaelose]

I had a new shell map for a while, but scripting bugs can cause very frustrating game crashes durring the startup.

[Death_Pheonix]

I had a new shell map for a while, but scripting bugs can cause very frustrating game crashes durring the startup.

they don't have to be action packed shell maps, heres one i made earlier it reduces lag.

i originally got it from cncden.com, but all the scripts and units were fucked up, so i modified and created new ones.






i used to be a fanatic star-craft map editor, i knew all of the scripts, and triggers. Now im moving on to generals, give me a couple of months and i might be able to make a good shell map

Edited by Death_Pheonix, 21 January 2007 - 09:30 AM.

[Phoenix911]

I never liked the Generals shell maps i rather it just be calm with maybe 1 or 2 units driving or just a picture. Faster load up and stuff

[Ubermedic]

Interesting.
I was thinking maybe just like showing a USA base.
Or maybe Chinese supply lines. or something.
I'm getting a Wii in one hour exactly.l

[Phoenix911]

Medic all i am going to say is "Wii Sucks"
Hope you enjoy it tho.
And no i not going into why i think it is crap... i ranted about it on my blog that i hardly erver update aswell as on other sites and now i too lazy to rant again.

[OMRi1712]

emmm new side? like Israel, Korea, Canda or something (i prefer Israel )