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[Nazgûl]

We could alwasy remove that from the Berserkers ^
Maybe they would fit with Rage better? =)

[Garrison Nomad]

Go back 1000 years, and i'm from Scottland...XD
I really don't mind the dwarf voices. The Axethrowers are the best...considering the guardians sound pretty gay, with the whole flowing beard thing...ehhg...but those kinds of things are touch-up things, not to be implemented until the "core" mod is done, least is my understanding.

a lot of those things require new models, new skins, new anims....which, when it comes to modding, you recycle as much as possible. I like all the dwarf ideas....especially the mattocks, like in the hobbit, but it's a helluva lotta work.

btw, go register!

[Biermann]

Hey Naz (or Sûl), is it very hard to do random skins to the dwarven warriors (at least beards)?
Also, I think that round shields would fit more to the dwarves than the normal "roman" like shields for the warriors.

[Nazgûl]

Random skins is easy, as long as you don't need them to go Heavy Armor. That's when the codes don't work anymore unless you make a gazilliion child objects, and that just sucks. I have random skins for most units that do not use HA cause as soon as it's HA you can only use 1 skin for all (without the great work load mentioned).

In the Internal beta I gave several skins to Elven Units and it looks great, but when they go HA they all change into the same skin. Not funny :(

[The Best Guest]

Romen shilds(sp) fit the dwarves because they are all about defense, high armor,and slowness

Edited by That Best Guest, 24 July 2007 - 01:22 PM.

[frinkmakesyouthink]

Well Norse shields fit because Dwarves are from Norse mythology.

[Biermann]

This is my point too. But this game and this mod aren't based in norse mithology. I agree with the idea that they are all about defense, but I think that the round shields would be more "dwarvish". But the formation of the dwarven warriors, with the roman like shield formation is a very good sight. Shows an idea of the Dwarven discipline. I think that a good adittion would be a shield wall formation, like the one in the MotW infantry. THis would fit the warriors because they are a bit of lesser siege unit, so a shield formation, with the ones from the behind lines putting their shields over the heads to protect from rocks and arrows. Just like the roman "turtle" formation. This would be an idea if you decide to keep the square shields.

About the axetrowers, i was thinking about give them a Xbow, or mabye a bow, and then they could switch to the axes to fight meele, transforming them in a ranger like unit. So they would be a basic infantry and basic range. Mabye with an attack power in meele close to the miner's one.

[The Best Guest]

mentioning the turtle formation the uruk-hai in the two towers used it to protect a ram could we use it maybe to that extent

[Strider]

I think we should have Dwarf Archers(Cross bow or regular) that can use Axe throw as a power like Black Arrow. Dale Archers can be the elite Archers for the Faction.

[adummy]

i have a suggestion, and it is everyone stop suggestion the god damn exact same fucking thing someone suggested a few posts before them.

[Sûlherokhh]

Yeah. It would be kind of nice if posts on previous pages were actually read before posting redundance. I think it would reduce the traffic in the forums by at least half. And it would be easier to read past entries as well. Hehe.

Reading more helps to reduce the amount of text that needs to be read to keep up to date. Now if that isn't funny!

I know, it always seems as if the one doing the back-reading is the only one doing it. But that's really not true. Give it a try, ya'll!

[Garrison Nomad]

The dwearven engineer...a tribute to hacking. Sure, no computer hacking here, but a single dwarf, called the engineer, would make a fine addition to the dwarves. the Engineer is stealthed, though limitedly. It is only armed with a shovel, but is a great weapon. The dwarven engineer hyjacks an enemy building. not only does this disable the building, but it lkinks that building to the dwarves tunnel network. This dwarf is relatively fast, though you could only have like 3 at a time. Run it up inside the enemy base, grab a resource structure, and boom....your army has access to the enemy base at will. The down side is that it won't take long for the enemy to realise that they have a hacked building, and will immediately destroy it if they know what's best for em. You can only have 3 hacked buildings at a time.

Sound good? Actually possible?

[The Best Guest]

sounds good yes
possible i have no idea

[Sûlherokhh]

The dwearven engineer...a tribute to hacking. Sure, no computer hacking here, but a single dwarf, called the engineer, would make a fine addition to the dwarves. the Engineer is stealthed, though limitedly. It is only armed with a shovel, but is a great weapon. The dwarven engineer hyjacks an enemy building. not only does this disable the building, but it lkinks that building to the dwarves tunnel network. This dwarf is relatively fast, though you could only have like 3 at a time. Run it up inside the enemy base, grab a resource structure, and boom....your army has access to the enemy base at will. The down side is that it won't take long for the enemy to realise that they have a hacked building, and will immediately destroy it if they know what's best for em. You can only have 3 hacked buildings at a time.

Sound good? Actually possible?

Was it possible in CnC Generals? If so, the codes may still be there. There are quite a few remnants of CnC in BfMe2.

[Garrison Nomad]

IDK...but perhaps apply an inn property to all resource structures, allowing them to be captured by the engineer...almost like adding an invisible flag. you'd just ahve to make sure it didn't work both ways.

[Nazgûl]

@Adummy: I agree, and you basically spoke what I dare not Everyone should learn to:
- Read all posts in the thread that have been posted since you last posted in the thread.
That way I won't have to read things 4-5 times when scanning threads for things to put on ToDo List.

We are also approaching a new era after Beta 4.5 when I/we will finally decide what all factions should look like. This has to be done in order to have a clear goal and focus, since we can't go of forerver modding and changing stuff in all eternity. We need to decide on things and we already have A LOT of stuff to choose from. So don't stopp suggesting by all means, but expect a radical "halt" a couple of weeks after Beta 4.5 (late summer), for these reasons...



@GN; that sounds very Al-Quad-ish... =p
But I will ad miners as early game units though... as mentioned before, but they will probably mostly be like peasants, but for Dwarves (stronger though)

[Garrison Nomad]

Well, it didn't necessarily have to be THAT model....jest a suggestion for a dwarven specialty unit. I think Specialty units, for ALL factions, would benifit in not only the diversity, but the late-game options for all factions.

[Biermann]

This is my point too. But this game and this mod aren't based in norse mithology. I agree with the idea that they are all about defense, but I think that the round shields would be more "dwarvish". But the formation of the dwarven warriors, with the roman like shield formation is a very good sight. Shows an idea of the Dwarven discipline. I think that a good adittion would be a shield wall formation, like the one in the MotW infantry. THis would fit the warriors because they are a bit of lesser siege unit, so a shield formation, with the ones from the behind lines putting their shields over the heads to protect from rocks and arrows. Just like the roman "turtle" formation. This would be an idea if you decide to keep the square shields.

About the axetrowers, i was thinking about give them a Xbow, or mabye a bow, and then they could switch to the axes to fight meele, transforming them in a ranger like unit. So they would be a basic infantry and basic range. Mabye with an attack power in meele close to the miner's one.

About the shield wall formation idea, since the dwarves are focused on defense and are exelent with siege, what about an "equipable" battlering ram, that could be protected with this shield formation just like the uruk hai did in the movies (the two towers)?

[The Best Guest]

i already posed that