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[Mathijs]

Actually, I think TDP designed it as a thrush, seeing as they were a Dale symbol.

[ttandchotmail]

G'day Thorongil45

I could be completely wrong here but from what I can recall ( can't find my copy of the hobbit anywhere, doh! ) The ravens of ravenhill to which you refer to where just friends of the dwarves. They actually didn't like men. I'm fairly sure it was a thrush that spoke to brand in the hobbit but that thrush only spoke to brand because one of the last ravens of ravenhill ( who spoke with the dwarves ) told that thrush to speak with him. Might be wrong but when I find my copy of the hobbit I'll check it out

[mike_]

To tack onto the above post, the reason Bard was able to understand the thrush was because the nobility of Dale - before its' downfall - were able to understand the "speach of birds". Bard himself, was a descendant of Girion, the former Lord of Dale. By some inate ability not disclosed to the reader, this trait was passed on to Bard.
At least I think that's it, lol..
Cheers,
-mike

[Thorongil45]

you're right, tt. it was the thrush. ravens for dwarves, thrushes for dale.

[ttandchotmail]

I'm right! Good to know my mind hasn't lost the plot completely then Still can't find that damn book. Doh!

G'day elfhelm

That's an interesting bit of info about bard and his family tree. Thanks

[Nazgûl]

*marker*
(Up until here - this thread has now been checked for useful items to put into the ToDo List!)

[ttandchotmail]

G'day to all

Sorry nazgul, I just thought of something else. But not to worry it's probably a stupid idea. It involves another power for king brand and his little bird friend. The dwarven faction dosn't really have any de-shrouding abilities and I thought giving the king brand the ability to send out his bird to anywhere on the map to see what it could see and then return to king brand might be a nice touch to this hero. The bird might need it's own range of view though. I thought this idea might be liked by the book fans as it was the bird which were able to tell him of impending trouble or conveying messages. Just a thought.

And again welcome back Nazgul

Edited by ttandchotmail, 28 March 2008 - 10:38 PM.

[Troll Ranger]

Bit off topic, maybe in the wrong thread but...why do some of the dwarves have whack-a-mole mallets? You'd think they'd tot around something with a little more...substance.

[zachdaddy_3000]

You can thank EA for that.

[spiderspag]

I noticed that you didn't have too many heroes for the Dwarves... how about Grimbeorn, son of Beorn, the shapeshifter from the Hobbit who could change from man to bear? You already have a bear model in game, you'd just have to 'snaz' it up a bit! Here's a concept of what he was going to look like in the movie :

Suggested powers- (can stealth in trees when in human form, can only heal in human form)
Level 1: Friends of the Forest (Allows Grimbeorn to see in sight radius of all wild animals)
Level 4: Transform- Transform (Grimbeorn transforms into his ferocious bear form)
Level 10: Summon Beornings- Summons a horde of powerful Bears for a limited time.

Also, you seem to have flying units for most other sides- did you give the Dwarves some Eagles as well? I'll remind you that following the events of the Hobbit, the Dwarves became close allies with Gwaihir.

As such, I suggest that you get rid of the Dwarven "summon hobbits" power, as Bilbo is already with them and the other hobbits are way off in the Shire, and replace it with the Summon Mineshaft power, and replace that power with the Summon Eagles power.

Alternativley, you could just make the Dwarves kickass vs. flying units, especially Dragons. I reccommend giving Brand a "Dragon-slayer" power which is basically an arrow that instakills flying units, similar to Istari Light or Saruman's Fireball.

Edited by spiderspag, 26 May 2008 - 08:44 AM.

[Aragorn King Elessar]

Hi every one This will be my first post on these forums, I have a couple things for the dwarves id like to input having just read 23 pages :s haha

---in terms of the battle wagon "Naz" mentioned wanting to scrap the beast which is logical, instead of adding poneys what about a Clydesdale horse , I'm not sure if such breeds of horses ever existed in middle earth but they could certainly pull a wagon
(picture of some below)

Clydesdale horses

--also what about the possibility of adding Dwarf Vault Wardens as seen here Dwarf Vault Wardens

Rohvanian Alliance has these type of units in the august 5th addition to sneak peek section of there site
Direct link to unit render
Rohvanian sneak peek section

these units could be the elite anti calvary/defense units possibly limited to only a few units , also due to the large shield possibly make them take less damage from arrows?

-this idea doesn't really focus on Dwarves more so every faction with decent walls , also bear in mind i haven't read all of the suggestions for all the other factions yet, but will you ever bring back walls in which units and arches can walk on , this would also add a more enjoyable concept to siege latter's...ect

[SovietSoldier]

in the dwarf vault wardens,i also saw an iron guard.they would look Sweet in S.E.E.

[Nazgûl]

Might be a cool concept, sure, but I don't think I wanna use it...
1) RA doesn't like when ppl copy "their" ideas
2) We don't really need more units with Dwarves

What we will do for this faction is:
- Dwarven Crossbows to "replace" axethrowers, which instead will be a very strong elite ranged unit
- Put a cart as a BC for Axethrowers (more logical and realistic as it can carry axes)
- Add more heroes such as:
* Thorin
* Balin (or equaliant like Dwalin)

[SovietSoldier]

Thorin II,or Thorin Oakenshield?

[The Best Guest]

the alive one during the lotr series though I don't know which it was.

[SovietSoldier]

Then it is Thorin III Stonehelm.

[Nazgûl]

Yes

[Aragorn King Elessar]

Might be a cool concept, sure, but I don't think I wanna use it...
1) RA doesn't like when ppl copy "their" ideas
2) We don't really need more units with Dwarves

What we will do for this faction is:
- Dwarven Crossbows to "replace" axethrowers, which instead will be a very strong elite ranged unit
- Put a cart as a BC for Axethrowers (more logical and realistic as it can carry axes)
- Add more heroes such as:
* Thorin
* Balin (or equaliant like Dwalin)

Sounds good

[Nazgûl]

Well it's also a question of Modeling... I had a crossbow dwarf model but I have no bow dwarf model, and no I won't model it myself
If someone came up with a bow model for them, we'd use it... My current in team modelers are swamped with other things, so I doubt they have time for this one... =/ But we'll see...