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[Devon]

Obviously, you hide her with the rest of the rohirrim when you attack, and she's kinda like a secret card you're hiding under the table

[Myrdin]

obviously i dont even bother to hope that someone does this and if someone does, then it still will be like 1 from 10 people ( if even the 1 that power just suckx, just give her something diferent, or let her get some dmg increase when discuised or something )

[Devon]

The idea is:

You disguise. The enemy has no idea she's there. You use smite/whatever on some super powered hero, and pretty much kill or severely own them so your other units can finish him.

[Myrdin]

smite is weak as apple pie ( against anything that is stronger then a normal unit - monster, hero, siege )

and the the discuise ( damn sp ) is ABSOLUTELY usselles against AI ( for the poor me can get just skirmish, :( at least brutal is strong as it iss, lol i wonder how easy would be to kill him if he had no discount and just changed AI )

[mike_]

Eowyn's 'Disguise' ability is also true to lore...she didn't ride to war in a regal set of iron-embossed armour like Theoden or Eomer, but instead joined up with an eored (Elfhelm's, heh) and remained hidden until she fought the Witch-King mano-a-womano.
So maybe she could use the 'Disguise' ability to link up with a battalion of regular Rohirrim, replacing one of those already a part of it? Would remove the 'single Rider' problem.
Cheers,
-mike

[Scryer]

elfhelm, I love that idea of having Eowyn link up with another battalion when she uses disguise... But I think that it would be too complicated to code. I just think that if you microed Eowyn into the middle of a bunch of rohan riders, you would get the same effect.

[Fyro11]

Is she the same speed as the Rohirrim? Sorry, just haven't used her in a long while...

[Devon]

If not, she will be soon.

[Scryer]

Yeah, I've been meaning to mention that there are some funky things going on with the horse-riding heroes for Rohan. And by this, I mean that they do some awkward moving when you click them to go somewhere. For example, I'd click somewhere (like behind the hero) and Eomer (for example) would sometimes go in circles and then eventually make his way there. Has this happened to anyone else?

[Myrdin]

elfhelm, I love that idea of having Eowyn link up with another battalion when she uses disguise... But I think that it would be too complicated to code. I just think that if you microed Eowyn into the middle of a bunch of rohan riders, you would get the same effect.

same effect . . . not against AI

Yeah, I've been meaning to mention that there are some funky things going on with the horse-riding heroes for Rohan. And by this, I mean that they do some awkward moving when you click them to go somewhere. For example, I'd click somewhere (like behind the hero) and Eomer (for example) would sometimes go in circles and then eventually make his way there. Has this happened to anyone else?

have you ever tryied riding a horse ? just a casuall question ( for i have - spend two weeks on a ranch . . . . ouch my " something " hurts when i even think about it - dont ride a horse unless you get some kind of protection - at least double thickness of trousers between legs, or something )
becouse horse is not like a car - it cant turn immediatly in the direction you wish it ( it could but if it would happen when running, it would broke leg or two ), it needs to turn the huge body in the direction you wish, and sometimes it even needs to do circles. Soo dont be angry of thoose poor " ingame " horses they are just true to their real selfs

[myster]

i never ever in my full year of car-driving experience made my car turn immediatly in the direction i wished. It always steers with a bend

still i think what scryer ment to say that if you click somewhere they dont turn on the spot but make some weird manouvres all about the map and then go to their destination, wich offcourse not they way it should be, because it costs you time.

[Devon]

Yeah, I've been meaning to mention that there are some funky things going on with the horse-riding heroes for Rohan. And by this, I mean that they do some awkward moving when you click them to go somewhere. For example, I'd click somewhere (like behind the hero) and Eomer (for example) would sometimes go in circles and then eventually make his way there. Has this happened to anyone else?

You mean like bfme1 where they stopped and turned around? I think the circle is more realistic, since it would be easier to turn that stop your horse, spin him, and kick off again.

elfhelm, I love that idea of having Eowyn link up with another battalion when she uses disguise... But I think that it would be too complicated to code. I just think that if you microed Eowyn into the middle of a bunch of rohan riders, you would get the same effect.

same effect . . . not against AI

Yeah, I've been meaning to mention that there are some funky things going on with the horse-riding heroes for Rohan. And by this, I mean that they do some awkward moving when you click them to go somewhere. For example, I'd click somewhere (like behind the hero) and Eomer (for example) would sometimes go in circles and then eventually make his way there. Has this happened to anyone else?

have you ever tryied riding a horse ? just a casuall question ( for i have - spend two weeks on a ranch . . . . ouch my " something " hurts when i even think about it - dont ride a horse unless you get some kind of protection - at least double thickness of trousers between legs, or something )
becouse horse is not like a car - it cant turn immediatly in the direction you wish it ( it could but if it would happen when running, it would broke leg or two ), it needs to turn the huge body in the direction you wish, and sometimes it even needs to do circles. Soo dont be angry of thoose poor " ingame " horses they are just true to their real selfs

Cars don't turn instantly either

[Myrdin]

but cars dont do circles around half of the map

[Fyro11]

but cars dont do circles around half of the map

And horses do? I know for a fact they don't as I've ridden horses

You mean like bfme1 where they stopped and turned around? I think the circle is more realistic, since it would be easier to turn that stop your horse, spin him, and kick off again.

Yeh I like this way better!

Edited by Fyro11, 09 May 2008 - 09:08 PM.

[Scryer]

My point wasn't that the circles thing was unrealistic. I just forgot to mention that sometimes they make several more circles (to the point where the realism is very inconvenient) than needed, or so I've experienced.

Edited by Scryer, 09 May 2008 - 09:15 PM.

[Fyro11]

My point wasn't that the circles thing was unrealistic. I just forgot to mention that sometimes they make several more circles (to the point where the realism is very inconvenient) than needed, or so I've experienced.

That's beyond realism; more like surrealism. If you're trained with a horse, there is no way in the world it is gonna do that.

[tylerman29]

i havnt seen them circle like that msut be a rare occurence .. ihave no clue.

[Scryer]

i havnt seen them circle like that msut be a rare occurence .. ihave no clue.

Meh, might be. Just thought that it could be something that the team could spend 5 mins on. Besides it's not that big of a deal. Moving on.....

[tylerman29]

who is with me that theodred should be in the game? at least a inn hero or summon?

[Devon]

He's in for the campaign at least.