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[Uruk King]

Would the buildings look darker like the stonework and structures in Khazad-dum?

[{IRS}Athos]

Hopefully. I'm still thinking that the dwarves would train their warriors in a building more impressive-looking than a hunk of rock... and those lazy EA bums just reused Rohan's archery range, so the dwarves need one of their own eventually.

[Uruk King]

Maybe, but maybe not. There could be a barracks building for the Dwarves, and a barracks Building for the men of Dale. Because really you could build a secondary barracks, one for archers, one for melee forces. Because after all the Dwarves aren't really renown for their archers as to merit a secondary building for them.

[Uruk King]

Pardon the second post but I wanted to counter Hasufel's statement on some of the Dwarven heroes, abut axing a fair few of them including Thorin Stonehelm. So I came up with a power list to make them more relevant to Middle-earth as a whole and not EA.

Dain II Ironfoot.
-Rank One: Leadership, leadership bonus to all nearby troops of +25% vision, +200% combat experience, +100% resistance to fear, +100% attack damage.
-Rank One: Great Cleave, powerful attack, damages multiple enemies
-Rank Five: Hasten to Battle, increases the speed of nearby allies by by 100%.
-Rank Seven: King Under the Mountain, grants experience to nearby units.
-Rank Ten: Fortifications, passive, increases health and armor values of buildings within a castle-sized radius, passive.

Thorin Stonehelm.
-Rank One: Horn of the Mountain, causes fear in nearby enemies
-Rank Two: Leadership, nearby alies gain +150% defence, and +75% damage
-Rank Four: Stonehelm, increases Thorin's armour by 150%
-Rank Six: Stand your Ground!, nearby Dwarven units loose 50% of their speed but compensate with a +150% boost in armour
-Rank Eight: Drive them Back!, nearby Dwarven units gain a damage and speed boost of 75%

Gimli.
-Rank One: Axe Throw.
-Rank One: Father Like Son, increases Gimli's defence values by 50% when close to Gloin.
-Rank Two: Leap.
-Rank Four: Breathe, Temperary +50% Speed bonus.
-Rank Five: Slayer.


Gloin.
-Rank One: Father Like Son, increases Gloin's attack values by 50% when close to Gimli.
-Rank Three: Axe Strike, Knocks back and damages Targeted units
-Rank Five: Words of the Veteran, Grants experience to targeted troops
-Rank Seven: Dwarven Grudge, Nearby Unit/Hero Ability timers recharge 25% faster, passive.

Dwalin.
-Rank One Toggle Axe/Bow
-Rank One: Lord of the Ered Luin, leadership to nearby Ered Luin Venturers
-Rank Two: Traveler, temporarily increases move speed of target battalions.
-Rank Five: For Balin, increased damage to Trolls and Orcs. Passive.

King Brand.
Rank One: Leadership, leadership bonus to all nearby Dale troops of, 10% Speed, +180% combat experience, +50% resistance to fear, +120% attack damage.
Rank Two: Valiant Lord, increases Brand's attack damage by 85%
Rank Seven: King's Favour.
Rank Eight: Prepare for War!, nearby ally strutures gain a production increase of 65%

Bard II.
Rank One: Toggle Bow/Sword
Rank One: Wounding Arrow
Rank Four: For the King, when near King Brand, Prince Bard gains an attack and armor boost.
Rank Seven: Black Arrow, a powerful arrow shot, deals higher damage than woundig arrow.

It would probably be too much to ask of Rob, these are only ideas. Ones that probably won't make it in

[Excuse_me_princess]

Very nice if this is used, the dwaren heroes become more than just tanks, they get more strategic value!
One thing though: does Gloin get an axe instead of a hammer... or are you just mistaken?

[Uruk King]

Yes he has an axe, and Thorin has a sword, just for variation.

In fact Gloin is says at one point when you select him, "My axe grows restless!"

[Neth]

Are the new heros that use CaH models eventually going to get their own modles and skins?

[Haldir74]

You should add Balin as one of the Dwarven Heroes. For crying out loud he did retake Moria. He then lost it to the Goblin King, Durburtz, but that's beside the point. Also Durburtz might make a good Goblin Hero.

Haldir74

[Ring o' Fate]

Durburtz is a made up character, and Balin is dead. And why? Because he DIED in Moria.

[Dalf32]

as a general rule, dead heros do not make it into the mod. if they werent alive at the time of the wotr, then we arent about to change the timeline just because theyre 'cool'.

[Haldir74]

Okay, what about Dain Ironfoot? He died in Erebor.

Haldir74

[{IRS}Athos]

Dain died during the War of the Ring. There's a difference.

[mike_]

Technically after the fall of Sauron

[Haldir74]

Yeah I guess you're right. Dain's more like Boromir than Balin.

[{IRS}Athos]

Technically after the fall of Sauron

However, the War of the Ring didn't technically end until after the Battle of Bywater.

[Uruk King]

Well actually Dain fell within the Three Day battle in Dale, defendeing Brand's corpse as the Dwarven/Dale army retreated to Erebor around the same time during or after the seige of Minas Tirith.

[{IRS}Athos]

That is true... the siege of Erebor was only broken on March 27, two days after the fall of Barad-dur. The Battle of Dale took place on the 17th.

[Neth]

Are the new heros that use CaH models eventually going to get their own models and skins?

Edited by Nethelen Narcu, 05 June 2009 - 10:57 PM.

[Dalf32]

i am almost positive that they will

[Florisz]

The Man of Dale Hero(the one that without CaH elf model) gets stuck in staircases in RJ Belfalas, and so do Dwarf builders.

Now Im going to bed.