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[Argeleb]

Copy it from some other guy

Well, yes Numenorians saved them but in the fight against Witch-king Arnor needed help from elves who came from Lindon & Rivendell

[Thrândoér]

Copy it from some other guy
Well, yes Numenorians saved them but in the fight against Witch-king Arnor needed help from elves who came from Lindon & Rivendell

... Of course. But that's because they have had civil war before, and some extraordinary cold winters brought by the witch king. And from the very beginning - Arnor-Dunedain were much less (in numbers) than their gondorian counterparts. So they were just too few to effectively fight Angmar - and the next best thing around were... the elves (at least that's thats what JRR's books tell).

But anyway. I think, because Arnor is the "nothern Kingdom of the men of Numenor in Middle Earth" they should be the strongest and most enlarged faction within "Arnor", if you choose to play them. Otherwise I could play Elves...

So long..

[Devon]

Please keep in mind that the mod is not in a finished state. Values and stats are subject to change.


That said, the royal knight battalion is one of the best units in game, and when you start getting dunedain with fire arrows, longshot can take down a rather large army, provided you have enough rangers.

[dojob]

Though HA seems to make longshots kinda useless.

[Neth]

Anyways - Does anyone know how to get this cool "RJ Fan/Player"-banner?

Get it here

As Tolkien wrote - in Beginning and the Middle of the Second Age, during the first fall of darkness - nearly all elves (at this time Noldor) were killed or hunted down by sauron. Only the arrival of a Numenor (Dunedain) Fleet with their amazing strength spared them.

This is true, although im sure Sauron hunted the elves first as he thought they had a better chance of defeating him. The elves only needed the Dunedain because so many of them had been killed.

[Argeleb]

Yeah, and dunedain were most powerful age in that age

[shadowfoxt]

That said, the royal knight battalion is one of the best units in game, and when you start getting dunedain with fire arrows, longshot can take down a rather large army, provided you have enough rangers.

Is it just me or doesn't the Arnor dunedain rangers long shot work?

[dojob]

Are u combining ranger hordes, cause that made it fail iirc. Otherwise, it'll work fine if individual hordes are using it.

[The Hawk of Light]

I dont understande the Ally withi the Dunedain upgrade, becase Arnor is the Dunedain nation.

[shadowfoxt]

Are u combining ranger hordes, cause that made it fail iirc. Otherwise, it'll work fine if individual hordes are using it.

Ok that explains it. Cheers

[Vithar-133]

The Dunedain are the Rangers. Arnor are the armoured soldiers.

[{IP} Aridor]

I agree it really doesn't make sense.

[shadowfoxt]

Yes the elven alliance upgrade I think is a smart idea but the dunedain.... (aren't the normal soldiers dunedain any way?)

[mike_]

/waltzes by

Y'know, we could have it be the 'Ally with Cardolan' upgrade, with the current 'Dunedain' instead being 'Men of Cardolan'. So that we have a base Arthedain/Arnor faction, and Cardolan allies.

/waltzes awaaaaaaaay

[Devon]

Or ally with rangers

[mike_]

I prefer mine

[{IP} Aridor]

Yeah I agree that Mike's is better it seems richer.

[Devon]

Yeah, well you may have riches, but I have 42

Edited by Yoda_, 29 January 2009 - 03:41 AM.

[CIL]

I go with Mike's. Seriously, the rangers were roaming around Arnor all the time. They'd be as ready as anyone else to defend their land.

[Thrândoér]

Yes the elven alliance upgrade I think is a smart idea but the dunedain.... (aren't the normal soldiers dunedain any way?)

Yep - you're right. "Dunedaín" or Dun-Edain means nothing more than "Men from the West" in Sindarin (elven language).
So it's a common description for the people of Arnor and Gondor. Gondor means... wait, let me see ... "Land of Stone" or "Stoneland" (White Mountains).
"Arnor" itself means "kingsland" or "Land of the king", because it was founded by Elendil.
"Ar-" means "King"... That's why Elessar also was called Aragorn (Ar-Agorn) - he was the hair to the Dunedaín-thrones.
So the Dunedain were the people of Gondor and Arnor. Soldiers, Rangers, Riders and citizens included.
But more specifically the people from Arnor - in Gondor they interbred with "common" people.

Fazit: I totally agree - That Dunedain-Fortress Upgrade doesn't seem to make much sense.
Guess would make much more sense if you could "unlock" some specials with it - for example the "royal knight" battalion. Or a special hero or so...