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[LordEcthelion]

In the movies Sauron greatly feared that sword because of what it did to him in the past and he believed it held some sort of power against him (which it pretty much did).

#1 Anduril had no power against Sauron. Sauron was not even fighting against Aragorn ever. (Who to be completely accurate, did not even fight at the battle of the Black Gates. If you read the books, it tells you that he was standing at the top of a hil watching and directing the battle.)
#2 Also, Sauron did not fear the sword so much as the fact that an heir to the kings of Gondor and Arnor was still alive.
#3 Aragorn's Elendil power does not even have anything to do with Anduril anyway. He is just shouting his battlecry. Sauron wouldn't be affected by this because he killed Elendil.
#4 Sauron is the cockiest b*****d in Middle-earth. He's not going to be scared by some paltry human (even if he is the rightful heir to the thrones of Gondor and Arnor) screaming the name of a man he killed hundreds of years ago.

Edited by LordEcthelion, 30 November 2007 - 01:10 AM.

[WingSephiroth]

i like see, i have alot of problems rite now but im not asking for help.
i just wonder, why dont you put see in an install file?
it would be lots more easier to install, it will even look professional.
the end.

[elbenmensch]

there may be problems with an installer (remember the game.dat mistake).So its easyer to make it yourself in my opinion

[Soviet]

#1 Anduril had no power against Sauron. Sauron was not even fighting against Aragorn ever. (Who to be completely accurate, did not even fight at the battle of the Black Gates. If you read the books, it tells you that he was standing at the top of a hil watching and directing the battle.)
#2 Also, Sauron did not fear the sword so etc...

yea...got you...

anyway, I know why you have the battalions of units limited for elite units and I'm totally fine with that, it adds a lot of strategy to the game, but I also like huge battles. I tend to pump up command point limits to 2x or higher sometimes. Would it be possible to implement a system where when you set the command point limit higher, the amount of elite units you could build would increase as well? ex: 1x : 2 Battalions, 2x: 4 Battalions 8x: 16 Battalions, etc.

[Lauri]

doubt that's possible..

[orcabn]

Hi, I am new. Anyways, I was the
guest who posted at the top of the page. I will repeat what I said. I think that every fraction should have at least two siege weapons, mainly moria, elves and men. Some of my ideas are:

for men:

1. rohan battering ram
2. gondor bolt thrower

for elves;

1. elven ladder
2. elven battering ram

for moria:

1. ladder( it's in the movie)
2. not sure any ideas?

I also have one idea for the dwarves:

dwarven siege tower.

It would have a mordor-like model with a more stone-like skin. Those are my ideas, tell me what you think

Edited by orcabn, 01 December 2007 - 11:01 PM.

[Sûlherokhh]

I am curious about your reasoning. Hopefully it's not to equalize the factions. Keeping them a bit different would be nice, as there are a lot of things that we have added or are about to (like wallupgrades) that already puts them closer together. And i which scene did you see goblins use a ladder? And what would they need it for in the game, seeing they can climb walls without a ladder?

[orcabn]

I am curious about your reasoning. Hopefully it's not to equalize the factions. Keeping them a bit different would be nice, as there are a lot of things that we have added or are about to (like wallupgrades) that already puts them closer together. And i which scene did you see goblins use a ladder? And what would they need it for in the game, seeing they can climb walls without a ladder?

Well in the fellowship of the ring in moria when the fellowship is walking through, you see at some of the shots of the cliffs, ladders left there by the orcs. I was just thinking of ideas for more siege weapons for fractions that only have one, because one type of siege weapon can not do everything. I am only trying to help. Sorry.

[Thorongil45]

orcabn, sul wasn't getting mad at you or anything but ladders wouldn't work that well in bfme2 (non-walk on walls) and helping is what this topic is here for, but not all suggestions are going to be used or even considered by the SEE team.

[Nazgûl]

I am curious about your reasoning. Hopefully it's not to equalize the factions. Keeping them a bit different would be nice, as there are a lot of things that we have added or are about to (like wallupgrades) that already puts them closer together. And i which scene did you see goblins use a ladder? And what would they need it for in the game, seeing they can climb walls without a ladder?

Well in the fellowship of the ring in moria when the fellowship is walking through, you see at some of the shots of the cliffs, ladders left there by the orcs. I was just thinking of ideas for more siege weapons for fractions that only have one, because one type of siege weapon can not do everything. I am only trying to help. Sorry.

Hehe yes, don't dispair Orcabn! Sûl was not mad - he was just asking counter questions Sometimes we (both him and me) tend to sound annoyed, and sometimes we are, but this was not one of them. As long as you post politely like you did, you are welcome to leave as many suggestions as you like. The "only" rule we have is that you must realize that even if we read them all, we might not accept them into the ToDo List

Now, about the siege machines. For the time being I find most factions to have enough. But we might toy with something of that for later on. Ladders for Moria won't happen though since the ladders you see in the movie are not made or put there by the orcs (goblins) but rather by the Dwarves who inhabited Moria before it was overrun by the goblins. And indeed the goblins would not need them since they already climb most things with ease =)

[orcabn]

I am curious about your reasoning. Hopefully it's not to equalize the factions. Keeping them a bit different would be nice, as there are a lot of things that we have added or are about to (like wallupgrades) that already puts them closer together. And i which scene did you see goblins use a ladder? And what would they need it for in the game, seeing they can climb walls without a ladder?

Well in the fellowship of the ring in moria when the fellowship is walking through, you see at some of the shots of the cliffs, ladders left there by the orcs. I was just thinking of ideas for more siege weapons for fractions that only have one, because one type of siege weapon can not do everything. I am only trying to help. Sorry.

Hehe yes, don't dispair Orcabn! Sûl was not mad - he was just asking counter questions Sometimes we (both him and me) tend to sound annoyed, and sometimes we are, but this was not one of them. As long as you post politely like you did, you are welcome to leave as many suggestions as you like. The "only" rule we have is that you must realize that even if we read them all, we might not accept them into the ToDo List

Now, about the siege machines. For the time being I find most factions to have enough. But we might toy with something of that for later on. Ladders for Moria won't happen though since the ladders you see in the movie are not made or put there by the orcs (goblins) but rather by the Dwarves who inhabited Moria before it was overrun by the goblins. And indeed the goblins would not need them since they already climb most things with ease =)

Understandable! Well I try to do that and I understand what you are saying, just tossing ideas around.

[njm1983]

It would be interesting if the giant eagles could pick up rocks and then drop them on the battlefield, and perhaps the isengard fells could do the same.

[Thorongil45]

nice idea, sounds like the pic on filefront. like that idea lots. it'd give the good sides and isengard something extra.

Edited by Thorongil45, 02 December 2007 - 07:55 AM.

[Sûlherokhh]

On the new maps there are sadly no ROCK_VENDOR objects like you had in BfMe1, so for it to work, a ROCK model would have to be integrated into the GiantBird's models, or else lots of ROCK_VENDOR objects introduced on every map.

There is something i have been thinking about putting back in though. In BfMe1, many buildings (if not all) could be 'salvaged' for throwable parts, damaging it in the process. Ents could rip out chunks (with a special ability) and throw them at enemies (remember the good campaign map at Isengard?).

I might reintroduce this feature some time in the future, but it will require a lot of recoding of all the structures. But if i am at it, i think i can add this ability to GiantBirds as well.

[Mercyy]

I haven't tested it yet, but are Moriagoblins able to climb over Helms Deep/Minas TIrith Walls?
In the normal game they weren't able, but I think they should be able to climb this walls, but therefore they get no thing like ladder. (I don't like ladders for goblins)

[Sûlherokhh]

I suppose they really should be able to do that. *making note*

[av8r]

It would be interesting if the giant eagles could pick up rocks and then drop them on the battlefield, and perhaps the isengard fells could do the same.

Rocks? Ack! My poor Tolkien!

[Wundai]

lol yes your pic Thorongil

Now if you'll all excuse me I'm going to search these forums as to why we can't create walkable walls

Edit: Found it :(
A shame though, I mean we are taking stuff from Bfme1, why not learn or take walls from that game to find out how to make them, but well if Sûl AND Naz say it, it can't be done

Edited by Wundai, 02 December 2007 - 01:17 PM.

[orcabn]

Hey guys! I just thought up a great anti-wall/siege unit for evil men.

The Haradrim Sabatoger(not sure how you spell it )

It would be a two man unit that would have one purpose, to sabatoge walls and bring them down. They would hit with a hammer the weak spots and it would fall down.


what do you think.