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[njm1983]

Does anyone recall seeing the scene from one of the trailers where bilbo comes across Narsil?
I cant recall if it was in or not.

[MattTheLegoman]

Yes, it is in the trailer - going to be in the Extended Edition hopefully.

I know I have a lot of soundtrack that wasn't played in the movie. And I am missing pieces that were in the movie regardless.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

Maybe you'll have to wait for the extended soundtrack.

[MattTheLegoman]

Complete Recordings actually.

[MattTheLegoman]

http://anewe9.tumblr...f-angmar-in-dol

Someone post the gifs here please!

[JUS_SAURON]

Finally saw it .......

Wished it was longer

A few Totally unbelievable scenes

1. Surviving the Rock Giants fight unscathed

2. Surviving the fall through Moria on the wooden scaffolding

Wanted to see more of Sauron /Necromancer story
or the witch king and other nazguls

Radagast -- Yeah !
want more action from him !

Tranduil - Yeah !

Dwarfs in their prime - Yeah !

Crap - I have to wait a whole year for the rest .....

[mike_]

Yeah that Nazgul really needed to be dimmed, the CGI is too bright in the scene. It doesn't come off as "Witch-King of Angmar" so much as "Casper the Very Unfriendly Ghost".

And I've rationalized a lot of the more outlandish elements like the Misty Mountains Amusement Park that was the Stone Giant Fight Club and Goblin Town Roller Coaster as Bilbo embellishing the story after the facts. If one of the Dwarves told you the story, they'd say that they saw Stone Giants fighting on the mountains and that they fell down a trapdoor to be captured by the Goblins, while Bilbo exaggerated the story to say that the Stone Giants fought right where they passing through the mountains and they went sliding down a looping tunnel until they came to the end. They would say that they fought their way out of Goblin Town, but Bilbo imagines it as a crazy running escape through the different levels of the place with the Great Goblin speaking in a dramatic and not-Orcish accent. This works in my head canon.

Edited by mike_, 13 January 2013 - 07:08 PM.

[Bashkuga]

I ehh, saw the movie 6 times already, 2 times in the cinema and 4 times on the internet .

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

The Witch King was at Dol Guldur, that sounds kind of completely stupid?
I missed a chunk of the movie because of the Supersized drink.

@JUS_Sauron it wasn't Moria.

I think Radagast got over used in the movie, I liked him but he slowed down the story they could have cut the whole scene with the animals and spiders and it would have made no difference.

I hope they don't bog down the other movies with too much Radagast stuff or Witch King bullshit, even the Necromancer should be too big to the story but I think he will be.
Kind of taking the spotlight off of Smaug.

[njm1983]

The Witch King was at Dol Guldur, that sounds kind of completely stupid?
I missed a chunk of the movie because of the Supersized drink.

@JUS_Sauron it wasn't Moria.

I think Radagast got over used in the movie, I liked him but he slowed down the story they could have cut the whole scene with the animals and spiders and it would have made no difference.

I hope they don't bog down the other movies with too much Radagast stuff or Witch King bullshit, even the Necromancer should be too big to the story but I think he will be.
Kind of taking the spotlight off of Smaug.

I had issue with the Witch king as well, It wasnt so much his wraith form hanging out in dol guldur, just the butchering of the lore around him. Galadriel says in "His body was taken to a tomb, after his defeat in angmar". They also circumvented the Prophecy made by Glorfindel - As a result tarnishing Eowyns stand against the Witch king at the battle of the Pelennor. I suppose that depends on perspective. One could argue that Eowyns courage was greater than that of most men, and because of that she was able to withstand the crippling fear of him while others fled.

I didnt mind radagast, Thought he quite a neat addition, though I did wonder at times if he could be trusted to do anything important - especially with the scene where hes leading the warg hunting party all over... I got the impression he forgot why he was doing that, and nearly got the group caught with his running around aimlessly.

I suspect Smaug will get the spotlight in the second film while Sauron/Necro will get the 3rd. Im just curious what they will come up with for Dol gulder and the white council forcing sauron out. I dont think it was any kind of great battle.

[NewErr]

Lore wise , Sauron left Dol Guldur and went to Mordor when the White Council came , he gave up Dol Guldur freely .

[njm1983]

Thats what I thought, Didnt the white council atleast make a show of force, only to find he had bailed already?

[Uruk King]

Aah, it’s good to be back on the old forums, my passion for Middle-earth re-ignited, as well as my keenness for BFME. Prepare for a looonng read!

Where to begin? Firstly I utterly loved ‘The Hobbit’, being able to relive Middle-earth as I had not done since I was a lad, from the performances of Bilbo, Gandalf, Thorin and the Dwarves to the stunning scenery, I was enchanted. The Riddles in the Dark sequence was the one I anticipated the most, but my favourite scene has to be the Eagle rescue from the wargs, even with the presence of a supposedly-dead orc leader. I’m not overly resentful of Radagast, I actually rather enjoyed him, creating the contrast between the Wizards, with Radagast as all heart and little head, Saruman as all head and little heart, and Gandalf as the perfect balance between them. He may not have been in the book in proper, but I saw why he was included.

Which brings me onto Azog, I understand the need for a villain that isn’t Smaug or the Necromancer, but it’s a little insulting to Thorin’s capacity to kill if he could not slay Azog...

As for the story element of the Witch-King returning, that’s what actually niggled me most, so in my own usual impulsive way, I took this as an opportunity for a theory. I proposed that the Witch-King was not buried in Rhudaur as the White Council stated and simply escaped, but arranged one of his Angmar mannish generals to serve as a decoy, while the real Witch-King rode south to Mordor to silently rebuilt his forces, overrun Minas Ithil, slay King Earnur of Gondor whilst evading the eyes of the Wise and occasionally convening with the Dark Lord in Dol Guldur (as seen in the film, as he would not always stay in Minas Morgul), all part of the illusion created by Sauron to mislay and deceive his enemies. Sauron has been known as the Deceiver, so it doesn’t seem unlikely that he could fool the leaders of the west while he could remain hidden and unannounced. The dark power exhumed by the Necromancer causes the Witch-King to appear in his true wraith form. None of the White Council save Glorfindel was there for Angmar’s fall, and misinformation is not impossible in Middle-earth. I wish they had not explicitly left out Glorfindel and the Witch-King’s prophecy, but perhaps the extended editions will rectify it somehow

I was sceptical for a while at first, but I was shocked by the modest gradings given by the nob-head critics, I think people expected too much of it, even when it’s just a (more or less) light-hearted adventure tale for the young by the fireplace, fundamentally different to ‘Lord of the Rings’ which is meant for, as Pippin said, ‘great halls and evil times’. I’ve seen it twice already and I’m sorely tempted to see it a third time now.

[seemann]

A little humor based on the hobbit....take it as a parody :

[NewErr]

Most disputed look of Beorn .. ends now :

 

 

http://www.theonerin...-face-of-beorn/

 

Spoiler Alert !

[Bashkuga]

Doesn't look to bad.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

He looks kind of scrawny.

[MattTheLegoman]

The title character of TDoS

Spoiler

[Mathijs]

Ahhh. Just ordered my tickets for Wednesday the 11th. I love it when films come out a day or two early in the Netherlands.

[Radspakr Wolfbane]

Not sure if I'm going to bother seeing this one.

I haven't been impressed so far so I might just wait for it to come out on Bluray and then acquire it.