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[Sven Co. Op]

Well Yuri does have the RA1 chronosphere under his control with the Allies still ignorant about it. Chrono vortex disaster maybe?

[isaac103]

Well Yuri does have the RA1 chronosphere under his control with the Allies still ignorant about it. Chrono vortex disaster maybe?

hmmm.......I wonder.....on one hand, does Yuri even know about the dangerous potential for a chrono vortex to occur? What if it happens on Antarctica while he's battling the Allies and Soviets? 

[Flandre]

 

Well Yuri does have the RA1 chronosphere under his control with the Allies still ignorant about it. Chrono vortex disaster maybe?

hmmm.......I wonder.....on one hand, does Yuri even know about the dangerous potential for a chrono vortex to occur? What if it happens on Antarctica while he's battling the Allies and Soviets? 

 

well based from some small info from Foenh's units and stuff. It's obviously related to the Mental Omega device... and the 2 factions either got destroyed or worse.

[ahmed.osama]

well based from some small info from Foenh's units and stuff. It's obviously related to the Mental Omega device... and the 2 factions either got destroyed or worse.

 

 

 

 

 

what's worse than destroying?

[Hardric62]

In MO? Mind-controlled on a peranent basis and use as disposable fodder or worst, used as fodder for whatever genetic experience Epsilon is thinking about... Pretty sure worst isn't that hard to reach.

[Handepsilon]

what's worse than destroying?

That kinda makes you sound like Lord Voldemort   

[ahmed.osama]

 

what's worse than destroying?

That kinda makes you sound like Lord Voldemort 

 

LOL still remembered this old noseless man

[XoGamer]

no I mean like at least a reference to the Time Machine

[isaac103]

So with the Allies launching their assault on Antarctica and the Soviets heading to the moon to destroy Yuri's moon-base (with lots of bio-tanks), Yuri knows that he is perhaps living on borrowed time. With the Paradox Engine leading the way for the Allies, it is only a matter of time before he can either train Libra to destroy the machine or the battery aboard the Engine fails, denying the Allies the use of their Time Freeze. 

 

I wonder what's next in store for all the sides?  

[Solais]

FIND OUT NEXT TIME, AT SAME MENTAL TIME, ON SAME MENTAL CHANNEL!

[Houseplant]

Does anyone remember this?

 

https://forums.revor...i/?hl=+area +51
 

 

Wait and see.

 

Timeline/universe tie-in will be hinted at in Act Two.

 

 

Interesting.

Edited by Houseplant, 13 March 2018 - 01:18 AM.

[GameMaster0000]

Current Situation

- Allied - Head South Pole to destroy MO Device.
- Soviet - On the Moon, will go to Moscow to kill Yuri
- Epsilon - Head South Pole to defend MO Device, while Yuri defect soviet out from MO Device.

My specutation is MO Device succesful activated and control whole world. there are some hint.

- Name of Allied and Epsilon last ACT II Mission, hamartia refers to a fatal mistake made by the protagonist(s) which results in a reversal of their fortune from good to bad, while Babel is mean MO Device self.
- Fin and Alize Unit Described that world mostly under mind control.

For Yunru and Her Foehn Revolt, according form Speeder, there are may are more Origin Mission that will be mostly how can her gather technology and troop, after that, she will go to Alsaka. hint is :

- Alaska is very far form Antartica that will may take less effect from MO Device.
- Last Bastion main base is at Alaska, Also Last Bastion may be mean of last stand of Mankind.
- Mostly Last Bastion Unit Prototype make Debut first like Mastodon and Gharial, this mean that Last Bastion will be first Foenh Sub Faction.

Yunru may make some shield or Device that protect of MO Device. and may be hind themself and wait time to come for revenge.....

ACT III may Mostly Foenh vs Epsilon

[RedFox34]

Okay, here is my "grand unified theory" on MO so far:

 

Yuri was the leader of the Nod Da'at cell that specialized in psychic technology, in an alternate version of the Tiberium universe where GDI had lost the First Tiberium War (aka Twisted Insurrection).   Somehow or other, he stumbled across an old Chronosphere from WWII.   When GDI closed in on his research site (TI GDI Mission 8), Yuri prematurely entered the Chronosphere in an attempt to escape.   At this point it's unclear or not whether he intended to go back in time or merely get away, but regardless of what happened, Yuri ended up some time in the past.   It's unclear how far back he was sent, but by 1972, adepts were in already in use (Archetype) and it was implied that public opinion may have been manipulated against the Allies by Yuri -- so he definitely arrived some significant amount of time prior to 1972.

 

In a world that was basically foreign to him, Yuri had two advantages: his knowledge of the history yet to unfold, and his mind control.   Whether he wanted to go back in time or not, he would have quickly realized he was in a unique position to alter the future.   

I believe that Yuri in MO, as opposed to vanilla RA2/YR, is somewhat of an idealist.   I think he really does do everything with the idea that it will bring mankind some sort of lasting benefit.   If we accept that Yuri is from a Tiberian future, he would have seen at least one, probably two brutal wars and the devastation of a planet's ecological system, for seemingly little benefit to humanity.   I think Yuri's ultimate goal is actually threefold: first to avoid a repeat of the twin Tiberium conflicts; second, to control Tiberium more effectively under a unified government; and third, and most importantly, to remove humanity's most violent urges, those that cause all the conflict in the first place.  The Mental Omega Device would be the key toward achieving this third and final part of his vision.

 

First, however, Yuri needed time and money to further his research into mind control technologies.  So, he appealed to the Russians, and used the Soviets' own desire for revenge as a way to get black money for his research.   Thus, PsiCorps was born.   

 

As the Russian desire for results from his program increased, and with his proximity to Premier Romanov allowing him to influence the leader of the USSR, Yuri probably realized that the best way to verify his technologies and to keep his position was to help make the Soviet plan for revenge a reality, and put his Psychic Beacons and Amplifiers into the US.  Indeed, when the MIDAS knocks out Chicago and his Beacon/Amplifier plan is ruined, Yuri is distressed; I don't think he planned on losing his credibility with the Russians so quickly.

 

Meanwhile, I think Yuri always knew that his time with the Russians was a short one -- Romanov was a paranoid man, and he'd surely dispose of Yuri after his usefulness expired, replacing him with a more friendly puppet.   So Yuri had begun forming the plan for his Epsilon army quite early, as a force that would be loyal only to him and help him achieve his ultimate goal of building the MO device.  I'm not sure how he knew about Rashidi, but I don't think the logo of Scorpion Cell is a coincidence.  Perhaps in the original timeline, Rashidi helped Nod develop their own technology -- Africa was a major Nod stronghold in the first Tiberium War.   I'm not sure where Kane is in this timeline.  Either he's gone to ground, his own plans disrupted by Yuri, or Yuri has had him removed already.

 

Originally, Yuri's plan was to help the Soviets totally crush the Allies -- then, to turn on the Soviets with his Epsilon force and use their infrastructure to help finish the MO device in a largely pacified world.   However, this plan didn't go as expected -- despite Einstein being dead, the Allies still proved resourceful enough to do enough damage to the PsiCorps effort in America to damage Yuri's reputation, and to survive in the British Isles -- the Chinese and Pacific Front proved to be problematic -- and Yuri could not maintain his position in the Russian forces, eventually having to flee for his own safety.

 

So, what we see in Act 2, with the Allies wreaking havoc with the Paradox Engine, is a HUGE wild card for Yuri -- they weren't even supposed to be around by this phase of the plan, let alone destroying his bases and pushing to Antarctica.   Even as late as Godsend, I think Yuri thought he had the Allies under wraps once London was taken.   Instead of having the world under his thumb, he's got not one, but TWO foes teaming up against his army, and a third he doesn't even know about building in the wings.

 

Libra and her clones are meant to power the MO device -- Libra herself, the most powerful of them, I think was originally the "core" of a sort, and I believe might only have been unleashed into combat to help as a counter against the Paradox Engine and the overwhelming strategic situation turning against Epsilon.

 

I believe the MO device's end goal is global mind control, but only of a sort: not that same kind of direct, brute force mind control we see elsewhere.  For humanity to unify and to achieve his vision of peace, I think Yuri might be intending to use it as a sort of scalpel -- a device to permanently remove or suppress humanity's most violent urges, and to basically force us to get along -- under his guidance and military.   With humanity in such a state, Yuri could use Epsilon and the assets of the world to prepare for the arrival of Tiberium and the building of a more peaceful, less ecologically damaged world.

 

Unfortunately, this is not going to go how Yuri plans.  I am predicting that Yuri will die at the end of Act 2 -- whether at the hands of the Allies or Soviets, it doesn't really matter, but we are building to a cataclysmic conclusion.  What we're going to see instead is that Libra will be the one at the head of Epsilon through brute force -- that the MO device will likely malfunction -- and that we really WILL see true global mind control in the sense that we're used to, because things went so horribly wrong in Antarctica.

 

As for Act 3 -- my guess is that Reptoir will be a 5th faction, led by Libra, comprised of a mixture of all 3 sides -- basically, the new dominant government of Earth, a sort of terror-state that has access to endless hordes of mind controlled people, and the technologies of the subjugated, under a mad psychic dictator.  If the other 3 sides exist in any form at all, it will be barely, but it is not impossible, as we know some people can resist mind control naturally.   Foehn will be the best hope of the world, but I'm sure there will be divisions there as well, and they might not know the true scope of the threat.   

 

And depending on how long Act 3 is after Act 2, we might see a certain meteor land in Italy, nobody left who is aware of its true significance.

[mrvecz]

If Mental Omega is a true follower of the serie, Tiberium has yet to land on Earth, if Yuri knows what will happen, it would make sense about his actions about uniting the Earth.

 

That would actually make Foehn the bad guys (Grey vs Grey) if they destroy each other at the end, Tiberium hits the Earth, GDI and NOD slugs it out and we know where it went.

 

Nod would pick up tech from Epsilon (Bio weapons, Stealth)

GDI would pick Foehn tech (Sonic weapons, rail guns)

 

Now if you think about it, MO being prequel to Tiberium with its factions make sense....

[The Jovian]

 

And depending on how long Act 3 is after Act 2, we might see a certain meteor land in Italy, nobody left who is aware of its true significance.

 

One of the Foehn MCV quotes is "M to the C to the V", now I'm pretty sure that this type of  "X to the Y to the Z" slang first became popular in the 90s so it is possible that Act III takes place around 6-10 years after Act II. Enough time for Foehn to build up their forces so that they can launch their attack against Epsilon. It really won't surprise me if the final Foehn mission takes place in Tiber River, Italy just in time for the meteorite to land and change everything, leading to a Mental Omega 4.0 which remakes Tiberian Dawn except with Foehn in place of GDI.

[Divine]

I really dislike the idea of Libra becoming any sort of dictator. Her character is very much one-sided, we haven't seen her doing anything other than butchering entire armies, which is while very much appealing, is a completely different thing from ruling people. I don't think there are enough missions left in act 2 to show any other side of her personality, or to make any sort of organic chracter development possible. We haven't seen any sort of capability from her to think tactically, although it would completely make sense if she received a very extensive military training besides honing her psychic talents, it's not mentioned anywhere. And not only she's not charismatic, it's pretty much canon that only her clones can tolerate her presence on the long run. Ruling people just through brute force is not possible, intimidating people will only make them run away and hide at best, openly rebel at worst, some charisma is needed. More importantly, there's no clue that she has a desire to rule anything. She seems to be content with killing a few hundred soldiers every now and then.

 

I think her character would have needed much more elaboration, similarly to what happened to Yunru. Maybe in Act 3, if there's going to be one.

Edited by Divine, 13 March 2018 - 11:39 PM.

[mrvecz]

I really dislike the idea of Libra becoming any sort of dictator. Her character is very much one-sided, we haven't seen her doing anything other than butchering entire armies, which is while very much appealing, is a completely different thing from ruling people. I don't think there are enough missions left in act 2 to show any other side of her personality, or to make any sort of organic chracter development possible. We haven't seen any sort of capability from her to think tactically, although it would completely make sense if she received a very extensive military training besides honing her psychic talents, it's not mentioned anywhere. And not only she's not charismatic, it's pretty much canon that only her clones can tolerate her presence on the long run. Ruling people just through brute force is not possible, intimidating people will only make them run away and hide at best, openly rebel at worst, some charisma is needed. More importantly, there's no clue that she has a desire to rule anything. She seems to be content with killing a few hundred soldiers every now and then.

 

I think her character would have needed much more elaboration, similarly to what happened to Yunru. Maybe in Act 3, if there's going to be one.

She as new dictator wouldnt last long either, probably she would destroy the Mental Omega device for the lolz (Or because she doesnt know a shit about tech) and then she would get nuked by free Soviets, or Allies would make something to beat her ass, Paradox mk II.

 

But if that thing would even happen, i would expect the entire Epsilon turning against her and using the controlled masses againt her. If Proselyte survives the act II i wouldnt be surprised if he wanted to get rid of this freak

[Divine]

Also let's not forget that Libra is technically just throwing grenades with telekinesis. Without facilities to support her, she'd run out of munition sooner or later. For this reason I pity that in Blood Rage she still uses said grenades, even though the CAS is supposedly malfunctioning. I wanted to see her wreck stuff purely with psychic powers.

 

And come on, all it should take to kill her is a couple of Terror Drones. (It's kind of a plot hole that the Chinese didn' just do that in Blood Rage or Machinehead.)

 

I like the idea that she'd be used to power the Mental Omega Device. It reminds me a lot to the God Emperor of Mankind's case with the Golden Throne in WH40K.

[UNSC THE CHILL OF WAR]

Surely she could use anything as ammo (cars, tanks, rubble etc) with her telekinesis, so she won't run out anytime soon

[Handepsilon]

Just make it instant projectile with telekinesis effect and explosion on the victim. Done