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#221 StolenTech

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 07:26 PM

No barrels in Chinese outpust... so they will be our enemies. :p

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#222 Hardric62

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 07:51 PM

Actualy, there is one next to one of the Tesla Coils... Althouugh it does suggest Chinese aren't allies for this mission.



#223 UNSC THE CHILL OF WAR

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:01 PM

So, i we not china, who are we?
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#224 Hardric62

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:12 PM

I think there are Chinese on our side... but teal ones, proto-Foehn troops loyal to Yunru first. The question here is, is the mission about establishing the base we attack in Thread of Dread, or are we dealing with the afftermath of the mission?



#225 Janusz Olender

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 08:28 PM

I think there are Chinese on our side... but teal ones, proto-Foehn troops loyal to Yunru first. The question here is, is the mission about establishing the base we attack in Thread of Dread, or are we dealing with the afftermath of the mission?

I think, that is rather the aftermath of the mission, since the main PRC forces is apparently hostile to us. Yunru probably had gone rogue AFTER ToD, otherwise, she wouldn't have that MIDAS. Maybe we are to create save passage for Centurion and other prototypes, or something.



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 06:54 PM

 

I think there are Chinese on our side... but teal ones, proto-Foehn troops loyal to Yunru first. The question here is, is the mission about establishing the base we attack in Thread of Dread, or are we dealing with the afftermath of the mission?

I think, that is rather the aftermath of the mission, since the main PRC forces is apparently hostile to us. Yunru probably had gone rogue AFTER ToD, otherwise, she wouldn't have that MIDAS. Maybe we are to create save passage for Centurion and other prototypes, or something.

 

 

Could still be before. Yuri's PsiCorps were technically still with the Soviets until the end of ACT I, but there was plenty of fighting soviets before then. 



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 06:59 PM

I don't think China is the enemy here, from the loading screen of Nobody Home on ModDB, it looks like Epsilon will be the enemies in this map. (Assuming this mission hasn't undergone a revision that is)

I'm throwing out a guess that China never trusted Yuri this whole time. They had Yunru develop new weapons under everyone's backs possibly to usurp the Russians, but also because they were anticipating Yuri's inevitable betrayal.

The Other Perspective in the MO Website seems to suggest that Foehn was created with the purpose of defeating Yuri, and the data on Foehn was in a Chinese data center in Power Hunger, which implies that China was aware of Foehn's activity. So China is fully allied with Foehn. At this point in the story, maybe they're essentially the same faction.

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#228 Janusz Olender

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 07:00 PM

Yes, but the Chinese were well aware of Yunru's activity and location, and if she stole MIDAS from them, surely they would have reacted. That means, that Chinese Politburo still believed that she is loyal to them.



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 08:47 PM

I'm noticing the McRoo outlet just poking into the right of the picture.  China has taken over Australia?  Unless there's a branch in Kashmir, Nobody Home's not going to take place anywhere near Thread of Dread.

 

I wonder also; given that Yuri now controls Moscow and much of Russia, did he actually move those MIDAS launchers out of Moscow?  Could he have integrated them/turned them into Death's Hand, and the actual last mission of the Soviet campaign is going to be trying to retake Moscow and defuse the Death's Hand threat?



#230 Janusz Olender

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Posted 25 October 2017 - 09:07 PM

I wonder also; given that Yuri now controls Moscow and much of Russia, did he actually move those MIDAS launchers out of Moscow?  Could he have integrated them/turned them into Death's Hand, and the actual last mission of the Soviet campaign is going to be trying to retake Moscow and defuse the Death's Hand threat?

That's a good point, but I wonder if the Soviets aren't going to do, what true communist should do -steal it... errr, I meant, collectivise it. :D



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Posted 25 October 2017 - 10:30 PM

I'm noticing the McRoo outlet just poking into the right of the picture.  China has taken over Australia?  Unless there's a branch in Kashmir, Nobody Home's not going to take place anywhere near Thread of Dread.

It just might be a cheap Chinese knockoff. :p



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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:13 PM

I don't think China is the enemy here, from the loading screen of Nobody Home on ModDB, it looks like Epsilon will be the enemies in this map. (Assuming this mission hasn't undergone a revision that is)

I'm throwing out a guess that China never trusted Yuri this whole time. They had Yunru develop new weapons under everyone's backs possibly to usurp the Russians, but also because they were anticipating Yuri's inevitable betrayal.

The Other Perspective in the MO Website seems to suggest that Foehn was created with the purpose of defeating Yuri, and the data on Foehn was in a Chinese data center in Power Hunger, which implies that China was aware of Foehn's activity. So China is fully allied with Foehn. At this point in the story, maybe they're essentially the same faction.

 

 

My theory is that Foehn is basically being conceived the same way Epsilon was, only with the Chinese and support from Kanegawa and Steinstech (Jackals at Kanegawa facility, European-sounding names, Allied weather tech and future tanks reminiscent of Foehn).

 

China thinks the advanced weapons projects are going to give them the edge to win the war, but Yunru and the Foehn leadership (if there is one yet) knows the established nations are already a lost cause against Yuri. As I've speculated before, China is being used to develop an arsenal the Chinese think is for them but is actually swept away from them at the last moment when its designers reveal their true colors. 







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