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[MorrisB]

Well, as I stated earlier, I'm not good at animating. Thus, it will be up to Ithron or Grizzlez to think if it's possible to make.

[Captain Beremir]

Well its nice to see you like this mod, and some of those ideas are good, but WOTE is already full of new units/heroes.
anyways, though:

ANGMAR: Although easterlings are a good idea, Angmar already has the Black Numenorians as units, and Evil Men are being confined to Rhun or inns i believe. Also, Stone Giants are implemented already.

MORDOR: I too would like to see some more Dol Guldur units in Mordor, but I'm pretty sure its full of units, and its up to Ithron to decide on new ones.

ISENGARD: Ruffians are already implemented, in the Hall of Orthanc.

EVIL MEN: I'm not so sure that camel riders really fit evil men too well, as Tolkien never really mentions them, and I'm not too sure about the Hasharin Assassins; they might be in(i dont think so), might be implemented later, or might not be added.

ELVES: Elves already have lots of units, and I'm not sure Ithron would add Breelanders into their faction. I have already suggested Mirkwood Spearmen, so they may be implemented, and I'm not sure if Eregion Soldiers will be added.

DWARVES: I really like the idea of Celduin Hunters and Mounted Hunters, but the Dwarves already have the men of Dale (militia, arechers, and cavalry), so I doubt any more men units will be added.

Overall, WOTE is pretty full of units, but there's always room for ideas, so keep suggesting. Also, check out my, MB's, and Elendil's idea topics (either on this page or back a few) to see our ideas that we suggested

[MorrisB]

The FULL list ? Are you CRAZY ?! There are about 12-20 new units PER faction (heroes/buildings NOT included) !

I'll tell you something: the factions are pretty much done (about 99%, if we don't count hero re-designs and the to-be-implemented new resource-system), so there isnt too much place for new units. Don't believe me ? Wait for the next Beta release which comes in February - you'll be grounded by the sheer amount of additions, I tell ya !

Edited by MorrisB, 19 January 2008 - 09:37 PM.

[MorrisB]

I doesn't work ? Hmm... you should post your problem here: http://forums.revora...showtopic=56572

This is the "Support Topic", where elvenfury solves the problems of all people who can't play the mod because of technical problems

[Smartdude1301]

I Have A Idea FoR a new Wizard For Mordor


Titus The Grey

He Could Have 5 Special Powers

Fire Ball
Fireball MiXED With Lightning
Wizard Blast Slash Stun Souronding EnemyUnits
New and improved word of power That Has Lighting Mixed in

Edited by Smartdude1301, 20 January 2008 - 08:47 PM.

[MorrisB]

Well, sorry, I'll have to disappoint you with that one... Evil Men (and Dorwinion) won't have new units; rather, they'll have improvements: heroes gain new skins/abilities (most notably Ulwarth), bug fixes, balancing, new icons (for upgrades/units); we might also see some upcoming work by Caluadan for Evil Men graphics by the end of this month, but that's not 100% sure.

The only really new unit at Evil Men now is Boldog, the structure hero (he's the leader of the orcs of Ash Mountains).

Evil Men probably gain new units/heroes the release after the upcoming Beta - which will be long months later.

PS: if you have neither the Evil Men Beta or Dorwinion Beta (which means that you don't know the units Evil Men are using), please tell me

[MorrisB]

Answers to the questions*:

- Halbarad will NOT appear in the next Beta, but we are seriously considering adding him in the version after the upcoming Beta.
- Yes, Angmar will gain plenty of new skins; Morgomir, Witch-King, Black Numenoreans, Goblin Spearmen and Rhuadur units all gain highly improved skins ! Also, if Caluadan continues his work, then several other units (like Dark Rangers) might gain new skins as well.
- While I agree that Angmar could have Goblin Archers as an early cheap ranged unit, sorry but NO. The Goblin Archers are going to stay at Isengard (at least for now). We might consider making the Goblin Archers avaible both for Angmar and Isengard sometime later, though.
- Well, it IS much. Almost every factions gain an enermous amount of additions; almost every faction gains new skins and icons; a lot of heroes (mostly MotW heroes) have been re-designed with new abilities; not to mention the dozens of new units the Good factions (MotW, Elves, Dwarves) get (the Evil Factions get little this time). I would suggest you to check the "Update Topic" backward, and find the new things there.

*please, next time post such questions into the "Ask the Team" topic rather than here.

[Caluadan]

I would like to point out that 'we' sometimes refers to MB, sometimes to Ithron and MB...and sometimes to the modding team as a whole. I think, for example, that all goblins should be with Angmar, while other people in the staff might have different beliefs. "We are all individuals," as they say in Life of Brian.

[Smartdude1301]

just thought that i would let yall know that if yall ever need a ini coder i would be more then gladley to help
Cause i know a good bit about it

[MorrisB]

Let me see...

To Jaguar6:

Wildmen Cavalry - both me and Elendil have thought of it, and the reason is obvious: Isengard really could use some sort of late-game cavalry. However, these wildmen should focus on damage and mobility rather than armor and defense... they also could have torches and a "pillage"-type ability (steal resources when hitting enemy buildings), and so they could be called as "Wildmen Raiders" or "Wildmen Marauders". This idea is not the most original I've seen in my life, but it's good and has some potential in my eyes. So you might see them in the release after the upcoming Beta (but let me remind you that it will be long months later).

Bolg - well, while I like the idea, I don't really think he's fitting to this mod UNLESS we consider bringing back the Goblin (Moria) faction. Bolg lived much after the rise and fall of Angmar. Isengard (the other faction which contains some goblin units in WotE) is also a bad chice, since Bolg died before the War of the Ring broke out. But since Ithron put Azog (the goblin who killed Thorin Oakenshield's grandfather) to Angmar, everything is possible, so don't give up the hope

Durghaz-nar - ...nah, I don't think this would work. Mordor already has Black Uruks (late-game swordsmen) AND Pikemen of Morgul Vale (late-game spearmen), so I guess there wouldn't be much place for them.

Orocarni Hoplites - I don't really like this. Most people dislike the Dwarven Phalanx because they aren't really fitting to the LotR world, so we don't need a copy of them, especially since Dorwinion has enough spearmen at its disposal (Hildorien Pitchforkers, Gondor Spearmen, Cuiveinen Pikemen - early game, mid game, late game).

To Smartdude: INI Coders are welcome, PM Ithron if you could join the team (at least poor Grizzlez would have less pressure on his shoulders )

[Caluadan]

I agree with MB here.